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Re: WordPress has left the building

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What's the alternative?

I recently released the first version of Wheelhouse CMS - https://www.wheelhousecms.com, which is a Rails-based CMS including WYSIWYG editing, template-based form generation, media library, plugins and a decent UI.

It's not free software but from my biased perspective its by far the best CMS I've ever used and my clients love it.

Demo here: http://demo.wheelhousecms.com

Re: WordPress has left the building

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He'll be back. Why? Because building and maintaining the alternative that he's asking for and had failed to mention is hard. Looking at his blogging history I see a shit ton of it revolves around WordPress, which I'm assuming roughly matches up with the client work dedicated to WordPress. I'm looking forward to the followup post.

Re: WordPress has left the building

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What took a little while to click with me, and really hit it home for me once it did, is how simple ProcessWire's approach to content and data actually is. Its primary admin UI looks like it's for editing a straightforward site hierarchy, and it certainly can be, but the key is that its "pages" don't have to be web pages. A combination of some simple PHP and some quick setup in the admin lets you build all sorts of t…

Just my 2 cents about XML. Don't use it as a feed for data. It's better to use JSON. Specially for mobile applications.

At least with ProcessWire, it would be pretty straightforward to re-template it to output JSON instead of XML (or keep both).

Re: WordPress has left the building

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Wait so he's complaining that a free piece of software that is designed to "create a beautiful website or blog" (from Wordpress.org) doesn't cut it as a high powered CMS? I think if we're honest, wordpress is a blogging platform and if you try to deform it into your own little niche needs, you need to accept the inherent risks.

Wordpress isn't a CMS, SilverStripe is, and it has a full MVC framework that it's built on too - makes coding extensions MUCH nicer than both WP and Drupal (ughhh). For me it's rails for the complex stuff, SilverStripe for the simple sites. Keeps me and clients happy.

Here's another vote for SilverStripe. I've run it in production for a year and a half and been very happy with it's performance and caching options. (You can do partial caching all the way up to a full but automated static export.) The MVC framework borrows a bit from rails and makes it one of the nicest PHP CMSes to develop for. It's much more fun than managing WP custom post types and the interfaces I can create for end users are better. Downsides? Documentation could be better and not as many off-the-shelf modules available. Both LibreOffice.org and OpenStack.org are powered by SilverStripe.

Re: WordPress has left the building

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Hello everyone, I'm Kevinjohn Gallagher, the author of the post. While I really appreciate all the comments, quite a few folks here have made presumptions that are really wide of the mark. I love WordPress. I use it for my personal site, and thats not going to change. WordPress is very good at what it does, and Im in no way down on it for that; its just that the needs of my small company is now very different that th…

Welcome to software. If it isn't changing, it's probably been abandoned.

I hope you're being sarcastic, I'm a techie and I let out a small curse whenever I log into a new WP Admin console.

Re: WordPress has left the building

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I try to write constructive replies to posts like this... but you sir, are an idiot. I wish I could down vote this.

I've used 9/10 CMS's in the market right now, and although there are the occasional mishaps, it's still the best CMS regardless. Some will say it's only a blogging engine, but it has enough functionality, when used correctly, to battle most CMS systems. Especially with it being free... you have absolutely no room to complain.

Re: WordPress has left the building

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Hello everyone, I'm Kevinjohn Gallagher, the author of the post. While I really appreciate all the comments, quite a few folks here have made presumptions that are really wide of the mark. I love WordPress. I use it for my personal site, and thats not going to change. WordPress is very good at what it does, and Im in no way down on it for that; its just that the needs of my small company is now very different that th…

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Re: WordPress has left the building

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Exactly. The author does not understand that if a theme is designed properly, an admin can mark comment as spam without editing the post. In addition, just about every single thing he thinks core Wordpress lacks can be added easily with a plug-in.

Sir, you have missed the point. You need the CAPABILITY to be able to edit posts to be able to mark comments as spam. Many of my clients want to be able to delegate SPAM marking, but not have that person be able to edit any content on the website. WordPress has hardcoded these two CAPABILITIES together for the last 13 releases.

Personally, I would create my own fork with this capability and try to convince Wordpress to incorporate my changes.

How certain are you that you're going to find software that won't have similar problems? One of the reasons I like open source is that I have control and can make changes when necessary.

edit - also, you basically have customers that are saying they have a pain point, please solve it. I would tell them that Wordpress is designed for the majority and there may be edge cases that don't cover their particular usage. If they would like a customized solution, you can do it for them but it will cost x amount of dollars.

Re: WordPress has left the building

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I guess someone should tell TechCrunch, BoingBoing, GigaOM and the rest of the large sites on WordPress to stop using WordPress, because it's not a CMS, or so we're being told. What people don't seem to get that WordPress has been morphing from "just" a blogging platform to a CMS ever since 3.0 shipped. It'll just be a matter of time before most of the legacy stuff is gone and we'll have a CMS that can do blogging in…

TechCrunch, BoingBoing, and GigaOM are blogs though. That is specifically what WordPress is designed for.

Sure, you can use WordPress as a pretty good CMS, but there are going to be cases that WordPress chooses not to handle. Some of those cases seem to be what this guy needs in his site, so he's not using WordPress. That's it.

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