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Pirate Weather: A free, open, and documented forecast API

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Re: Pirate Weather: A free, open, and documented forecast API

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It’s truly maddening as an Aussie. How many apps just ignore the BoM? I expected the Apple one not to, but it does. It’s frustrating when friends visit me and check the weather on their phone and the data for the Google and Apple apps is so bad. I use Willy weather that uses bom. I don’t love it though. Any recommendations? I personally can’t stand the actual BoM app as an iPhone user but I appreciate that they tried…

I'm more of a desktop user, but I wasn't happy with what was out there so I made my own (but only for Melbourne): https://davidjohnstone.net/weather/melbourne . I'm tempted to turn it into a proper Australia-wide product. The BoM's data licensing fees (in the order of $5k/year) are a bit of a barrier.

That's really nice! Another commenter mentioned the Willy Weather API, which uses BOM data and has a generous free tier. Not sure if that would enable you to make it Australia Wide at a reasonable cost?

https://www.willyweather.com.au/info/api.html

Re: Pirate Weather: A free, open, and documented forecast API

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I agree, PirateWeather seems like a misbrand here. When I read it, i thought it was stealing weather data or something. On the web, the term "pirate" generally doesn't mean good things. This name almost implies that it is illegal or something. I'm imagining designing a software product around this and presenting it to a C-Level, explaining that we use "PirateWeather" and I think I'm going to get grilled with lots of…

I'm the dev for this, so can shed some light on this! Weather Underground was a pretty out there choice- I guess the kind of people who like putting together weather APIs aren't great at naming things. I considered "Bright Ground", and still have the domain name for it, so maybe it'd be worth spinning up another API endpoint/ branding that uses that and has a more commercial focus, keeping Pirate Weather as the free…

Rrr-mate, Rmate, Are-matey,

And variants thereof perhaps

Re: Pirate Weather: A free, open, and documented forecast API

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I agree, PirateWeather seems like a misbrand here. When I read it, i thought it was stealing weather data or something. On the web, the term "pirate" generally doesn't mean good things. This name almost implies that it is illegal or something. I'm imagining designing a software product around this and presenting it to a C-Level, explaining that we use "PirateWeather" and I think I'm going to get grilled with lots of…

I'm the dev for this, so can shed some light on this! Weather Underground was a pretty out there choice- I guess the kind of people who like putting together weather APIs aren't great at naming things. I considered "Bright Ground", and still have the domain name for it, so maybe it'd be worth spinning up another API endpoint/ branding that uses that and has a more commercial focus, keeping Pirate Weather as the free…

I like the name pirate weather a lot.

Re: Pirate Weather: A free, open, and documented forecast API

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> Why "PirateWeather"? I've always thought that the HRRR model was pronounced the same way as the classic pirate "ARRR". Also, there is one company out there that thinks APIs can be copyrighted, which might apply here. This answers the first question I had upon seeing the name, which was, is it free, open, documented and legal ? Based on the above the answer seems to be "probably". Very commendable effort, and I hope…

I'm the dev behind this, so always great to hear things like this! I really struggled to try to come up with a name. My first thought was "Bright Ground" (opposite of Dark Sky), but that seemed a little too on the nose. Luckily, the legal aspect of this (I'm in the clear!) was pretty well settled after the final Oracle v. Google case, but at the time was a big enough deal that it seemed relevant, and the HRRR model w…

I’m out of the loop. Why would this not be legal? Are you using Oracle technology?

Re: Pirate Weather: A free, open, and documented forecast API

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I'm the dev behind this, so always great to hear things like this! I really struggled to try to come up with a name. My first thought was "Bright Ground" (opposite of Dark Sky), but that seemed a little too on the nose. Luckily, the legal aspect of this (I'm in the clear!) was pretty well settled after the final Oracle v. Google case, but at the time was a big enough deal that it seemed relevant, and the HRRR model w…

I’m out of the loop. Why would this not be legal? Are you using Oracle technology?

> built as a compatible alternative to the Dark Sky API

OP is talking about the copyrightability of API's (which they are clearly exposed to as they built a drop-in replacement). The relevant case: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_LLC_v._Oracle_America,_....

Re: Pirate Weather: A free, open, and documented forecast API

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post #155

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I'm the dev behind this, so always great to hear things like this! I really struggled to try to come up with a name. My first thought was "Bright Ground" (opposite of Dark Sky), but that seemed a little too on the nose. Luckily, the legal aspect of this (I'm in the clear!) was pretty well settled after the final Oracle v. Google case, but at the time was a big enough deal that it seemed relevant, and the HRRR model w…

I’m out of the loop. Why would this not be legal? Are you using Oracle technology?

Oracle argued that interface calls were copyrightable. They lost anyway.

Re: Pirate Weather: A free, open, and documented forecast API

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I agree, PirateWeather seems like a misbrand here. When I read it, i thought it was stealing weather data or something. On the web, the term "pirate" generally doesn't mean good things. This name almost implies that it is illegal or something. I'm imagining designing a software product around this and presenting it to a C-Level, explaining that we use "PirateWeather" and I think I'm going to get grilled with lots of…

I'm the dev for this, so can shed some light on this! Weather Underground was a pretty out there choice- I guess the kind of people who like putting together weather APIs aren't great at naming things. I considered "Bright Ground", and still have the domain name for it, so maybe it'd be worth spinning up another API endpoint/ branding that uses that and has a more commercial focus, keeping Pirate Weather as the free…

Keep the name - this is not vc bait

Re: Pirate Weather: A free, open, and documented forecast API

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I assume there's no recourse for iOS users?

If you are using the current version of iOS, the new weather app rocks in terms of functionality (IMHO better than the previous version of Dark Sky). If you are on an old version of iOS and mourn the loss of DarkSky app, I personally like MyRadar - it has some very nice features and I used in tandem with DarkSky in the past. If you are after writing an iOS app, you already have an Apple developer account allowing for…

I mean, it doesn’t even have precipitation notifications or a proper precipitation graph. Not exactly better.

Re: Pirate Weather: A free, open, and documented forecast API

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Hi, creator of open-meteo.com here! I am using a more wide range of weather models to better cover Europe, Northern Africa and Asia. North America is covered as well with GFS+HRRR and even weather models from the Canadian weather service. In contrast to pirate weather, I am using compressed local files to more easily run API nodes, without getting a huge AWS bill. Compression is especially important for large histori…

open-meteo.com looks awesome. I've been messing around writing a snow forecast app for skiing/snowboarding for a while now and the main thing I'm missing is historical snowfall data. Do these data sources exist in a machine readable format and I've just not been able to find them? If so, would you ever consider adding precip + kind of precip to your historical API?

Snowfall is already available in the historical weather API. Because the resolution is fairly limited for long term weather reanalysis data, snow analysis for single mountains slopes/peaks may not be that accurate.

If you only want to analyse the weeks to get the date of last snowfall and how much power might be there, use the forecast API and the "past_days" parameter to get a continuous time-series of past high-resolution weather forecasts.

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