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Artist banned, told to “find a different style”- AI-made art

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Re: Artist banned, told to “find a different style”- AI-made art

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Post by erk__ »

Sebb767 wrote: post #129
erk__ wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is curious how different the sentiment is in this thread compared to the other thread currently on the front page regarding GitHub Copilot. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34274326

It's just a sidenote, but HN is not a single person and doesn't hold a singular opinion. We have both sides argued for in both threads. Not that I disagree that there might also be some bias going on ("our" vs. "their" field), but some inconsistency is normal.

I very much know that, but it is still interesting to see the differences in how the threads are. Even if it is not the same people arguing in both.

Re: Artist banned, told to “find a different style”- AI-made art

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Post by shlubbert »

CuriouslyC wrote: post #7
geraldwhen wrote: post #4

The hilarious irony is that the AI is quite possibly copying the authors older work if it was published on an image sharing site like Reddit or deviant art. Lawsuits need to destroy these models stolen from the public.

While we're at it we should publicly flog anyone who's ever done any art in the style of anyone else before them, because they also stole ideas from the public.

I mean, if you fully clone the style of another artist and promote it as your own you will get derided by most art communities.

Re: Artist banned, told to “find a different style”- AI-made art

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Post by ryandrake »

rvz wrote: post #110

All digital artists need to do to prove that their art is not AI-generated is to record their screen and show a start to finish recording of themselves painting the digital image from scratch as proof. This is not new and it is similar to speed painting, and all these prompters using Stable Diffusion cannot do such a thing. Problem solved and job done.

The artist in question offered to show the raw Photoshop files and the progression of work done on the piece to prove it was not AI generated, but the mod did not take him up on that offer, and simply banned him.

Re: Artist banned, told to “find a different style”- AI-made art

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Post by ilyt »

Sharlin wrote: post #38
teekert wrote: post #18

What does it even matter how art is created? It's the same with banning ChatGPT from StackOverflow: Who cares and who notices? Art is either evoking some feeling or not and it's different for everybody. An answer on SO is either helpful or not. Who cares how it was written? ChatGPT can easily say something more helpful than me, stable diffusion can easily make something I'd rather have on my wall than Da Vinci's Mona…

Well, the temporary ban at SO is entirely justified. They already saw the influx of massive amounts of new answers, generated by ChatGPT, that are essentially spam and make everybody worse off. Even if 90% of the answers are perfectly correct, that leaves the 10% that are wrong, sometimes in subtle ways. And because the submitter of those answers is only parroting what ChatGPT wrote, they probably won't be available…

> Even if 90% of the answers are perfectly correct, that leaves the 10% that are wrong, sometimes in subtle ways.

I wish 90% of real people answers were correct...

Re: Artist banned, told to “find a different style”- AI-made art

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Post by Mezzie »

awillen wrote: post #131
Mezzie wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wonder if/how a hard limit on number of communities moderated would work? Make it so one person could only mod 2-3 subreddits. Unfortunately, this would require some work from Reddit the company to keep those same powermods from just making new accounts so probably won't happen.

Reddit just doesn't have any incentive to do this - you're talking about people who are doing free labor for them. Maybe it's got problems, but if you get rid of the power mods (and don't change the structure to add any incentives like pay), you probably just end up with a bunch of unmoderated communities that then die off.

Yes. This is why I doubt it will happen.

Re: Artist banned, told to “find a different style”- AI-made art

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Post by AlexandrB »

Auracle wrote: post #122
CuriouslyC wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

While we're at it we should publicly flog anyone who's ever done any art in the style of anyone else before them, because they also stole ideas from the public.

I guess we’re back to crude cave paintings. Tear down all the statues and burn the museums.

> Tear down all the statues and burn the museums.

No need. Soon there will be so much AI generated "art" that human-made art will largely be pushed out of popular consciousness.

Re: Artist banned, told to “find a different style”- AI-made art

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Post by purpleblue »

flumpcakes wrote: post #141

Speaking on the topic of Reddit and mods and it's power structure: In the UK Reddit has pushed a new subreddit called "HeyUK". It has turned up in the subscription feeds for some (all?) UK users automatically without the user asking for it or adding it. If you remove it from your list of subreddits the posts will still show up in your feed as "sponsored". As far as I can see this new subreddit is seeded with just cro…

The beauty of reddit is that you can create your own subreddit with your own mods and have the discourse that you want. You're not held to just sticking with the subreddits that are given to you.

Re: Artist banned, told to “find a different style”- AI-made art

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Post by yegle »

rvz wrote: post #110

All digital artists need to do to prove that their art is not AI-generated is to record their screen and show a start to finish recording of themselves painting the digital image from scratch as proof. This is not new and it is similar to speed painting, and all these prompters using Stable Diffusion cannot do such a thing. Problem solved and job done.

Wait until AI can generate such a video in 1min?

Re: Artist banned, told to “find a different style”- AI-made art

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Post by cat_plus_plus »

jtbayly wrote: post #93
benjaminbachman wrote: post #2

The only real news here is that Reddit mods are power mad tyrants, which is nothing new at all. AI generated art has just given them newer, funnier ways to be in the wrong.

But in this case, the mods can't win. If they let AI art take over, HN will be condemning them for putting artists out of business. If they refuse to allow AI art, HN condemns them anyway.

On the contrary, AI will put a lot more artists in business by drastically expanding the range of artistic works than can be created and kinds of people who can create great works. Hanging a rectangle still painting on the wall is of limited appeal in the age of smartphones and VR. Imagining being able to paint walls and ceiling of entire house with aesthetically appealing, one of a kind art, for the same effort as currently required for a small still painting. A lot more people will be interested in paying for that and they will be willing to pay a lot more.

Re: Artist banned, told to “find a different style”- AI-made art

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Post by robotnikman »

benjaminbachman wrote: post #2

The only real news here is that Reddit mods are power mad tyrants, which is nothing new at all. AI generated art has just given them newer, funnier ways to be in the wrong.

Reddit mods fully convinced me that most of what we read on the internet is written by insane people. And I include most Reddit mods in that.

See previous discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18881827

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