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Car-sharing service HiGear shuts down due to theft of 4 cars worth $400,000

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Re: Car-sharing service HiGear shuts down due to theft of 4 cars worth $400,000

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It's not the same as "all children are above average", since you're comparing a subjective evaluation (beauty) to an objective evaluation (e.g. reading skills). Neither am I saying that everyone is beautiful to everyone else, just that everyone is beautiful to someone. After all, there are some niche tastes. Just look at the gay community whose tastes can range from Bears (big chunky hairy guys) to twinks (young skin…

But how would you know beauty if you did not also know the lack of beauty? In the same way as, what is light without dark? You can't truly appreciate one without the other. You could be right about the "everyone is beautiful to someone". I agree, the fashion industry is not much better. If I was king, I'd have everyone aim for athletic/fit. I suppose that's just one person's preference though.

I agree a lot with the light/dark metaphor. I think a lot of these conversations, weather on HN or tv talk shows, are just bullshit being thrown back and forth to make everyone feel good. The elephant in the room is that Beauty is beauty because it's rare. If everyone where beautiful (consensus wise) it wouldn't be beautiful anymore. We would all normalize to it. Everyone is not beautiful. It doesn't mean they should be treated bad or different, but everyone's face isn't geometrically symmetrical, everyone doesn't have good lines, good skin, good body proportions, nice thick hair.

We call everyone beautiful despite most people being unattractive, because we ourselves, being imperfect, would like someone else to call us beautiful. Its the lie that keeps on giving.

Deep inside everyone sees someone else as ugly or unattractive but we don't want the world to see us as judgmental assholes so we bullshit each other and act like no one on earth is ugly. I always get a good laugh at the audience on Oprah who clap and cheer like crazy during before and after makeovers, and weight loss stories. "You look so beautiful Kelly! You look so much better Jennifer!" But then comfort other women who feel unattractive with "you're beautiful just the way you are"... I'm sitting there eating pizza laughing my ass off thinking, "Really?! You've all got 30 minutes of makeup on your face and you're telling her she's beautiful just the way she is.?! Had she walked out of the room, got a makeover, lost 40 pounds and walked back in, you'd all be cheering your asses off and teller her how much better she looks."... Tsk tsk Humans and their lies...

Re: Car-sharing service HiGear shuts down due to theft of 4 cars worth $400,000

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Sexy cars and pin-up girls have gone hand-in-hand for generations, and probably always will. Are you really outraged at the notion of dudes wanting to look at hot girls?

I believe your parent finds the notion of using objectification of women to rent cars distasteful. I know I do. Just as many find the Godaddy girls distasteful.

What about the notion of using men to sell violence? Wrestling toys for kids, GI Joy action figures etc... This goes both ways. Both men and women are stereotyped.

Re: Car-sharing service HiGear shuts down due to theft of 4 cars worth $400,000

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I felt worse for these guys until I read to the end of the letter and found out about the "HiGear girls". It's not quite as bad as I thought because they don't seem to "rent out" these models like they do cars; I guess it was just a publicity thing. But still, having revealing pictures and even stats (measurements) of the women is pretty much the definition of objectification. FOLLOWUP (responding to comments): I'm n…

Fixed that for you:

But things that reinforce the societal ideal that men's value comes from being conventionally big and strong is much more deeply damaging than most people realize. It leads to the body image issues that the majority of young men grapple with. Anything that makes it seem like numbers define how tall and strong you are is especially bad, because it makes it harder for men to accept their own non-ideal bodies as strong. It encourages young men to spend vast amounts of their free time learning about and working on being strong and muscular rather than, say, being productive, peaceful, starting a family. To some extent, it leads to happiness inequality between men and women (men grow up with the message that being emotionless is good, so they tend to keep emotions, feelings, pain hidden. This makes them less willing to seek help for depression, anger management problems, and more willing to be violent to get what they want. It also leads to other bad things like having no self discipline over their sex drive and thinking it's ok to fuck anything that moves, thus resulting in divorce, embarrassment, and losing millions of dollars and destroying their political careers or livelihood. ex: tiger woods and the countless other men like him who had it all and fucked it up.)

I like seeing racy pictures of shirtless guys as much as the next girl, but displays of men like this, especially wrestling action figures, or overly muscular super heroes, encourages societal ideals that are at the root of most of the gender-related problems in our society.

(not that you were wrong, just showing you the opposite)

Re: Car-sharing service HiGear shuts down due to theft of 4 cars worth $400,000

#154
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I believe your parent finds the notion of using objectification of women to rent cars distasteful. I know I do. Just as many find the Godaddy girls distasteful.

What about the notion of using men to sell violence? Wrestling toys for kids, GI Joy action figures etc... This goes both ways. Both men and women are stereotyped.

Yes, I am against those as well.
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