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Amazon rescinding the offer while I am on the notice period

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Post by YuryVladkov »

parasense wrote: post #138
prng2021 wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The better option would have been to hire him. How is that not obvious? Amazon as a multi-national, multi-billion dollar company can absorb the expense of employing him. I’m the worst case, they can lay off an existing low performing employee to compensate.

> Amazon as a multi-national, multi-billion dollar company can absorb the expense of employing him. That is a very charitable opinion. The idea that because a company is large enough, or profitable enough, that it therefore should be compelled to hire indefinitely, or never shrink in size. Let me ask, is it your opinion that economies only ever grow forward, that companies in the economy never shrink?

I was reading an interview of Warren Buffet saying that integrity is an important value for a business to succeed. Why are we talking about hiring indefinitely? They made a contract and based on that I made some commitments. How does this case look like hiring forever?

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Post by TedDoesntTalk »

vertis wrote: post #90
TedDoesntTalk wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Staying at a job that you resigned from is not a good idea, unless it’s very short term. For many reasons.

No that's just not true. I left a company years ago on good terms to join a (semi established) startup. 9 months later it turned out to be a real shitshow. I talked to one of the senior managers at my former company and they gave me a really great job offer. More senior than previous and with a pay rise above the bump I'd gotten going to the startup. Stayed with that company for another 4 years (7.5 in total). It'll…

Your story is different. You left for a significant time then returned. That’s not what OP is talking about.

Re: Amazon rescinding the offer while I am on the notice period

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Post by TedDoesntTalk »

jimlongton wrote: post #96
TedDoesntTalk wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Staying at a job that you resigned from is not a good idea, unless it’s very short term. For many reasons.

I have not found that to be true, maybe due to company culture. Both my manager and our best engineer left my current company and returned, one after 2 years and the other have just 3 months. Both have been subsequently promoted. Our industry is not small but we all know people in rival companies (semi-conductor, EU) and a lot of management have left to work for competitors at one point and returned. Unless you work…

Leaving for a some years then returning is definitely not the same thing we’re talking about.

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Post by scarface74 »

Kim_Bruning wrote: post #131
scarface74 wrote: post #73

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Unless you are a special snowflake with a unique skillset, why would a company the size of Amazon ever veer from their standard contract?

I've negotiated with some very large companies at times. No one can operate a company as a single giant monolith. They're all subdivided into departments or subcompanies or subunits in some way or other. And these subunits often have more or less leeway and authority to act by themselves (depending on the exact organization). My favorite story is when the manager across from me happened to have signing authority for…

Now, I could negotiate to an extent with a smaller company where I would be a “special snowflake”. If they were looking for someone with my combination of skills.

But the company changing events I did at the smaller company I worked at from 2018-2029, gets me an attaboy for adding 5% to my divisions revenue, a message on our Slack channel and life goes on.

Re: Amazon rescinding the offer while I am on the notice period

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Post by shyn3 »

walkhour wrote: post #142
shyn3 wrote: post #7

Wow. Sorry man. Head high. You got this! We need a list of companies who act this way and boycott their products.

Products produced by enslaved children are not boycotted, don't get your hopes too high.

This is so true.

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Post by vertis »

TedDoesntTalk wrote: post #154
vertis wrote: post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No that's just not true. I left a company years ago on good terms to join a (semi established) startup. 9 months later it turned out to be a real shitshow. I talked to one of the senior managers at my former company and they gave me a really great job offer. More senior than previous and with a pay rise above the bump I'd gotten going to the startup. Stayed with that company for another 4 years (7.5 in total). It'll…

Your story is different. You left for a significant time then returned. That’s not what OP is talking about.

One of the great things about humans is the ability to take one experience and abstract it to gain knowledge about others. In this case I was implying (as was my sibling comment) that resigning isn't necessarily impossible to undo.

Highly depends on their behaviour and value to the company and colleagues. If they're valuable and well liked it could be an option.

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