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Re: California’s population shrinks for third straight year

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> You need to factor in local taxes as well. Sure, tax burden rankings usually aggregate state and local taxes. > California cities top the charts for sales tax. The maximum combined local sales tax rate in California is 3% (There's a 7.25% state rate, on which local district rates can be added to a maximum of 10.25%). No California cities are in the top 50 for sales tax in the US. [0] > A lot of these overall tax bu…

The maximum state+local sales tax rate in California is 10.75% not 10.25%. Wikipedia lists 68 jurisdictions in California with effective sales tax rates greater than or equal to 10%. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taxation_in_California#Local_j... Nationwide (as of 2021), three out of five of the cities with the highest effective sales taxes are in California. Californian cities are very much over-represented on this…

I was wondering why there was a marked difference between the latter list which has 3 CA cities in the top five, and that of the parent post which excludes California from the top 50 taxed cities. And it seems that 0) the latter list only counts cities over 200K population, plus 1) the former list counts the Special Tax districts within Missouri cities as separate cities, so e.g. St. Louis city/county by itself counts as 13 entries in the Top 50 taxed "cities."

Re: California’s population shrinks for third straight year

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Haha, did someone actually tell you the weather is fine? I was born in Texas and I've lived in Austin for 13 years and I've always thought the summers are unbearable. Although my perspective is tempered with what I experienced around the gulf, in Mississippi and Florida. The humidity there is so bad I literally don't think it's fit for human settlement.

San Francisco is one of the most humid cities in the US (so much that mold can be a problem in some cases). Relative humidity is on average higher than Wash DC --but lower than Port Arthur, TX.

Humidity isn't so bad when it's in the 50s/60s Fahrenheit all the time.

Re: California’s population shrinks for third straight year

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post #140

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Haha, did someone actually tell you the weather is fine? I was born in Texas and I've lived in Austin for 13 years and I've always thought the summers are unbearable. Although my perspective is tempered with what I experienced around the gulf, in Mississippi and Florida. The humidity there is so bad I literally don't think it's fit for human settlement.

San Francisco is one of the most humid cities in the US (so much that mold can be a problem in some cases). Relative humidity is on average higher than Wash DC --but lower than Port Arthur, TX.

I am not sure if you are speaking from experience or looking at weather data, but in 13 years I have never seen indoor humidity high enough to make mold likely. Higher humidity with cool temperatures does not feel like high humidity with high temperatures, which can be unbearable. I sweat profusely in the latter conditions and not all all in the former.

Re: California’s population shrinks for third straight year

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People are doing the math. If you make enough money in California you pay 10% of your income in taxes. First of all, what do you get from that 10% you pay that don't get in other states with lower or no income taxes? For the people paying the taxes the answer is not much. People also fail to account for the fact that the 10% they are paying is 10% of their GROSS income, not net after federal taxes. So if you are alre…

I lived in Florida for a while. Between the ultra-conservative retirees and the over-representation of the tragically hilarious on-point stereotypical poor white rural southerner I thought it was an awful place to live. I get a lot of value for the taxes I pay in California: schools that aren't prohibited from discussing certain scientific topics ("climate change") and that aren't outing LGBQTP+ kids to other kids' parents in letters, for one example. Anyone who holds up Florida is a positive place to move to instantly loses credibility to me.

Re: California’s population shrinks for third straight year

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Moved from the bay to Texas because of everything i heard. It was such a horrible experience. The heat, the bugs, the lack of density. So few days of good weather. Maybe worth it to some, but a bigger house was not worth it to me at all. We moved back in 6 months. So many people want to live in California which causes more issues

Haha, did someone actually tell you the weather is fine? I was born in Texas and I've lived in Austin for 13 years and I've always thought the summers are unbearable. Although my perspective is tempered with what I experienced around the gulf, in Mississippi and Florida. The humidity there is so bad I literally don't think it's fit for human settlement.

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Re: California’s population shrinks for third straight year

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How smug are Californians that those who always disagree with them always “must be Republicans”? They really said people are leaving the state because of “political reasons” (ie, “they’re Republicans, aka, ‘non-regrettable attrition’”)? Couldn’t be all of the other reasons could it.

I say this as a California native who left for a litany of reasons, last of them being the politics.

Re: California’s population shrinks for third straight year

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San Francisco is one of the most humid cities in the US (so much that mold can be a problem in some cases). Relative humidity is on average higher than Wash DC --but lower than Port Arthur, TX.

I am not sure if you are speaking from experience or looking at weather data, but in 13 years I have never seen indoor humidity high enough to make mold likely. Higher humidity with cool temperatures does not feel like high humidity with high temperatures, which can be unbearable. I sweat profusely in the latter conditions and not all all in the former.

Over by the Great Highway mold can be an issue. But not only there. Yes the cool temps make the humidity very much less noticeable.

Re: California’s population shrinks for third straight year

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Haha, did someone actually tell you the weather is fine? I was born in Texas and I've lived in Austin for 13 years and I've always thought the summers are unbearable. Although my perspective is tempered with what I experienced around the gulf, in Mississippi and Florida. The humidity there is so bad I literally don't think it's fit for human settlement.

San Francisco is one of the most humid cities in the US (so much that mold can be a problem in some cases). Relative humidity is on average higher than Wash DC --but lower than Port Arthur, TX.

> San Francisco is one of the most humid cities in the US (so much that mold can be a problem).

I've lived in Louisiana, Mississippi, and Georgia and mold has never not been a problem in those states. I have never lived in San Francisco though so I can't compare.

Re: California’s population shrinks for third straight year

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Exactly. Soviet style apartment cities are on the menu. Highly efficient and affordable.

Doesn’t answer the question about infrastructure which California is well known to be lacking.

So, there can be no solution? Why would you not assume that as density increases, the amenities would also get better?

I find this lack of optimism very dissonant and just divisive.

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