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Chrome, 10 Years Later

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Re: Chrome, 10 Years Later

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post #141

Google should do something about the Chrome repo's file size... 65GB+ is kind of ridiculous. Last time I tried to download the thing, I gave up.

They did, Chrome devs fly 128 core 64-128GB workstations, no problem for them.

And my recollection is that Google devs use something akin to Chromebooks, coding remotely, meaning the multi-gigabyte repo isn't on "their machine" anyway

Re: Chrome, 10 Years Later

#152
post #102

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That's not what a free market is. A free market is merely one that is not regulated by the state. Stop perpetuating this strawman please.

Both of you need to stop throwing around “free market” as an argument point since you both evidently have no clue what it means.

Please do share the knowledge

Re: Chrome, 10 Years Later

#153
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post #57

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Yeah, that part of the blog post is probably the best example of: “it is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it.”

This obviously goes both ways - some people also utterly refuse to understand just how many businesses exist because of the revenue driven from ads. Which then results in some comments here that are utterly detached from reality. It's kinda tiring really - seeing people constantly bark past each other with no understanding of nuance. But that's the modern internet I guess.

We understand that many businesses and services wouldn’t exist without ads — we just don’t care.

In fact, it’s not apathy, it’s antipathy.

I think the world would be a better place if ad-supported businesses, advertisers, advertiser-driven tracking, and ad-tech companies simply did not exist.

Re: Chrome, 10 Years Later

#154

I remember how exciting it was to be in my college dorm and having people be like "Man, this new browser is amazing!" It's kind of surreal because I'm not sure desktop software really does that anymore; maybe apps, but they seem to fizzle out really weirdly. It's very crazy to consider Chrome's influence on the Internet, and how most browsers are just skinned Chromium now.

That's a testament to how bad browsers were/are compared to Chrome.

Chrome was a ground-up project, written by highly-paid Googlers, while other browsers were sitting on old codebases built up by many average employees and unpaid volunteers over a decade+.

Chrome was also, at that time, allowed to be a pure browser for browsing the web while other browsers were trying to get you to sign up for toolbars (essentially more ad real estate for them) or use their homepage (more ad spots) and were pushing out updates constantly (an excuse to show you more ads in the updater progress window!)

Re: Chrome, 10 Years Later

#155

Google should do something about the Chrome repo's file size... 65GB+ is kind of ridiculous. Last time I tried to download the thing, I gave up.

Why would they do that? Chrome being hard to compile is a benefit to them. It means it's harder for people to fragment the Chrome ecosystem by making slightly-incompatible forks.

Re: Chrome, 10 Years Later

#156
post #98

I will always support Chrome over Firefox because they are not politicizing their project, they just serve you and leave the politics to politicians. They earned their market dominance for being great and supporting things that Firefox did not at the time. I am OK with monopolies of good products, I don't really care about using an inferior product for the sake of lack of monopolies.

How does Firefox politicizing their project affect you? It shouldn't. If you don't like the quality of the browser, just say that, otherwise YOU are the one being political.

Re: Chrome, 10 Years Later

#157

I remember how exciting it was to be in my college dorm and having people be like "Man, this new browser is amazing!" It's kind of surreal because I'm not sure desktop software really does that anymore; maybe apps, but they seem to fizzle out really weirdly. It's very crazy to consider Chrome's influence on the Internet, and how most browsers are just skinned Chromium now.

That's a testament to how bad browsers were/are compared to Chrome. Chrome was a ground-up project, written by highly-paid Googlers, while other browsers were sitting on old codebases built up by many average employees and unpaid volunteers over a decade+. Chrome was also, at that time, allowed to be a pure browser for browsing the web while other browsers were trying to get you to sign up for toolbars (essentially m…

Chrome was based on Webkit which was based on KHTML. It wasn't quite a ground-up project.

Re: Chrome, 10 Years Later

#158
post #41
post #29

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Pretty sure Firefox does that by default. It gets highly annoying, sometimes.

> Pretty sure Firefox does that by default. Ahem, no. > It gets highly annoying, sometimes. The thing you made up gets highly annoying, sometimes?

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Re: Chrome, 10 Years Later

#159
post #71
post #69

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> Ahem, no. I'm referring to this: https://twitter.com/bert_hu_bert/status/1561650689474011136 Maybe it was removed after August, but it was in Firefox only a few months ago. And for the record, FF android prioritizes Google searches over history leading to accidentally visiting the Google search for a web page I often frequent.

> I'm referring to this: https://twitter.com/bert_hu_bert/status/1561650689474011136 That doesn't seem to say anything about what gets transmitted to or from Google? Certainly it's not your visited URLs. > And for the record, FF android prioritizes Google searches over history leading to accidentally visiting the Google search for a web page I often frequent. For search suggestions we send what you've typed, not full…

> That doesn't seem to say anything about what gets transmitted to or from Google?

It makes a noise every time a request is sent to Google.

> For search suggestions we send what you've typed, not full URLs. I'm not sure what happens when pasting a URL

That's the issue. I type the URL and press Enter.

https://imgur.com/a/shEFR2w

I get sent to Google for no reason.

Re: Chrome, 10 Years Later

#160

> History will surely uncover a Machiavellian plot about usurping control over the web, but at the time the story was pretty simple, at least as it was explained to naive pawns like me. Google wanted the web to succeed and even had a team of people contributing to Firefox. Google wanted more influence over the product, Mozilla was (reasonably) uncomfortable with that, so we went our own way. This resonates with me. O…

Really? I thought it was to simply guarantee that the search service in this browser would be Google--and that it would probably be cheaper (the cost of building/maintaining the new browser vs paying existing browsers for the right to be the default search service).
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