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Re: Apple Music Sing

#151

> and can be enjoyed on iPhone, iPad, and the new Apple TV 4K But the old Apple TV 4K is not powerful enough for displaying text on a TV, even though any old iPhone is? I get that they want to push device and service adoption but they should pick a lane, either push users to upgrade devices, or push to sign up to paid services. Pushing for both at the same time is greedy.

With the FTC watching Apple so hard it’s funny to see contrarians like “meh impossible that it’s a hardware limitation”

Re: Apple Music Sing

#152

> and can be enjoyed on iPhone, iPad, and the new Apple TV 4K But the old Apple TV 4K is not powerful enough for displaying text on a TV, even though any old iPhone is? I get that they want to push device and service adoption but they should pick a lane, either push users to upgrade devices, or push to sign up to paid services. Pushing for both at the same time is greedy.

What's worse is that the Apple Music app on Mac doesn't even have lyrics (and is ridiculously bad in many other ways). It feels like they are slowly abandoning the platform.

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#153

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It's not explicit, but from the descriptions it seems to suggest it's performing recognition of the audio streams of what's being sung, and even supports dual streams for duets. Just curious: what in the article makes you think that?

iOS > Settings > Accessibility > Live Captions (beta) > Toggle Live Captions

That makes sense when there's audio that Apple hasn't seen before. With Apple Music Sing, it makes more sense to do that processing once in the datacenter.

Re: Apple Music Sing

#154
I love karaoke, but I wish we could switch to a system with better visual cues.

For example, anyone remember those Disney sing-a-longs with the bouncy mickey mouse icon? IMO, the icon really helps communicate timing information; you can tell what's coming by the speed and arc of the icon. I'd love to have that system with a wider variety of music.

There's also RockBand's approach, which displays scrolling syllables to be sung when they cross a white line. It's a bit harder to read, but I'd take it over traditional karaoke.

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#155
I wish that before working on this they had fixed the long-standing bug where Apple Music playback on the Apple TV 4K (and possibly other versions) disables the screensaver, making it impossible to use on any OLED TV without risking burn-in.

Re: Apple Music Sing

#156
post #145

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Even if they're using ML, I don't imagine they'd do it on-device. They don't even do voice recognition on-device by default.

> [Apple says it is] relying on an on-device machine learning algorithm that processes the music in real-time. The tech builds on Apple’s noise-cancellation expertise and other developments it’s made for FaceTime, the company said. Source: https://techcrunch.com/2022/12/06/apple-music-is-getting-a-n...

Ah, I stand corrected! I wonder why they took that approach...

Re: Apple Music Sing

#157

They should introduce "Discover Weekly", "Release Radar" and "Enhanced Playlists". Why are the recommendations lacking so much behind Spotify? That's the only reason I can't switch over and I would love to.

I find both Apple Music and Spotify's recommendation services pretty much awful after a few months of use. They both eventually end up pushing the same stuff and recommending me songs by the same artists I'm already listening to.

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#158
I"m curious if artists can opt out of their songs being included in those that have these capabilities. This seems like another way that a streaming service is exploiting artists to me. It's cool technology definitely, but there are some problematic implications for sure.

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#159

Is this akin to karaoke? (The word never appears on the page.) > Apple today announced Apple Music Sing, an exciting new feature that allows users to sing along to their favorite songs with adjustable vocals1 and real-time lyrics. Users can already "sing along to their favorite songs" -- this feels like a wasted opportunity in the first sentence to explain the differentiator. It feels like they're misusing/misunderst…

I came here with that question, why don't they call this karaoke? Wondered if "karaoke" is trademarked? (or patented?!) It doesn't seem to me likely that they didn't think their audience would know the word "karaoke" at this point, but I don't know.

Doesn't appear to be karaoke because I'm assuming it doesn't take your voice and throw it into the mix.

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#160

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree with “show don’t tell” as a general rule for effectiveness in cases like this, but I find it really hard to believe anyone is going to read this and not immediately grasp what is meant by “with adjustable vocals and real-time lyrics”. Obviously you can already sing along, and the question about how this makes it better is answered within the same sentence.

License agreements often forbid things similar to “adjustable vocals.” It would be interesting to learn if this is achieved with technology, like automatic stemming, or through partnership agreements that provide vocal tracks separately for adjustment.

Wouldn't a programmed solution fall afoul of that licensing ?
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