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Re: The Twitter Files

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Post by fzeroracer »

Dig1t wrote: post #118
andreyk wrote: post #108

It does not seem like this really exposed any new information - Twitter publicly justified its actions as being about its hacked data policy back when this all happened ( https://www.nationalreview.com/news/twitter-cites-hacked-mat... ). All this shows is some internal disagreement as to whether that was the right call. By the way, Facebook also suppressed the news story citing its misinformation policy ( https://www…

https://twitter.com/mtaibbi/status/1598827602403160064 Biden team asking Twitter to "handle" tweets they don't like. This rubs me the wrong way, nobody in government should be telling Twitter to remove speech.

Did you bother looking over the content of those tweets? You can go to archive.org right now and see what was 'censored', but I recommend not doing so at work. Or you can look at my prior posts instead for an explanation.

It should come at no surprise that high profile users of twitter (government, celebs etc) can make requests to have content that clearly violates the twitter ToS removed and are served with higher priority.

Re: The Twitter Files

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Post by [deleted] »

Dig1t wrote: post #110
paulgb wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is there a smoking gun here that points the blame to any officials representing the party, as opposed to bad decisions made by twitter employees on their own bias? I find the tweetstorm format to be not particularly coherent, and I haven’t followed the story closely enough to know who the actors are, but Ro Khanna (a Democrat) is one of the names I recognize and he seems to be against the censoring.

This one is pretty bad in my opinion: https://twitter.com/mtaibbi/status/1598827602403160064 The government is not supposed to be censoring people's speech, however they are effectively doing just that using a layer of indirection.

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Re: The Twitter Files

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Post by [deleted] »

starkd wrote: post #112
nkozyra wrote: post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This does seem to be the play. There is a story here! Politicians having direct access to social networks to suppress narratives they don't like is interesting. But 1) I don't think it's surprising and 2) it appears it was not politically motivated at least in a bipartisan sense. A story but one delivered with the kind of panache to drive traffic.

That's flat out false. He clearly claimed in the thread there was clear evidenceof political motivation. For one, he cited the political donations are heavily slanted. Secondly, he mentioned the mass confusion that reigned as they tried to fit it into the hacked material case, even though it was clearly was not. It was a NY Post story about a lost/abandoned laptop. Read the thread. A lone company acting on its own to…

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Re: The Twitter Files

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Post by anonu »

Waterluvian wrote: post #97
Dig1t wrote: post #16

I'm a moderate, not a Democrat and not a Republican. I think people on the left have a blind spot here, that the more suppression they use, the more division they create, and the more moderates and people on the right grow to resent them. I would have identified as a Democrat on pretty much every issue, but this authoritarian suppression of speech and ideas has just pushed me away from that side completely. At this p…

From a country with five viable parties: this picking sides thing, or even being a “moderate” is just weird and kind of horrifying how normal the populace thinks it is. It’s not normal. People should be FREAKING OUT that their governmental system is in such bad shape. They’re too busy cheering for whichever tribe they’re in. All of politics being one dimensional is one of the biggest lies ever.

A two party system works. I'm from a country with a 20+ party system and it's dysfunctional. In addition, you can't lump Democrats or Republicans in the USA in their respective boats. There's a hundred shades of grey within each party. But rallying behind one candidate versus a hundred in a primary makes for a better setup than anything else I've seen in other countries.

Re: The Twitter Files

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Post by anoonmoose »

laborcontract wrote: post #137
anoonmoose wrote: post #130

Earlier quoted context omitted.

1- Biden wasn't in government, he was running for office. Private citizen at the time. 2- They weren't telling, they were asking, and if Twitter feels like they were told, they can sue the government for violating their First Amendment rights.

picking apart semantics is not sufficient to allay concerns expressed in parent

There are people up and down this thread claiming this is a 1A violation. Parent's sentiment may just be a conceptual one but I am much more concerned with the legal aspect, and everyone understanding that correctly.

Re: The Twitter Files

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Post by b4je7d7wb »

lazide wrote: post #123
scifibestfi wrote: post #109

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It doesn't matter which side, because isn't the problem that the government is doing an end run around the 1st Amendment? If you don't think so now, you might in 2024. So it's time to care now.

Huh?

The argument lefties like to make about free speech is that companies are free to choose who can use and what can be said on their platforms. Free speech only applies to government. Well, looks like government has been a part of it.

Re: The Twitter Files

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Post by SpicyLemonZest »

whateveracct wrote: post #63
nathanaldensr wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think you're confusing Hacker News for 4chan.

I wish that were the case. But I had multiple users shilling "pedophile elite" conspiracy theory at me yesterday.

If multiple users were telling you the same kinds of things on a platform that you typically expect to be reasonable, is it possible that your expectations of the platform were correct after all and they were being more reasonable than you give them credit for? Sometimes coherent theories can seem bizarre or nonsensical if you're not familiar with their core premises

Re: The Twitter Files

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Post by [deleted] »

whateveracct wrote: post #53

HN is a weird place. Feels like the loudest political voices are alt-right-adjacent nowadays. Just yesterday I had to wade through Q-level talk about Balenciaga being the true villain in society (one user literally said the Latin translation of Balenciaga had occult meanings). It's just so surprising to see Tucker Carlson's outrage machine consistently make rounds in HM comments. I guess he recovered from that Jon St…

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