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Re: Bye, Twitter

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Post by dorkwood »

Markoff wrote: post #128
dorkwood wrote: post #76

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I suppose it depends on what your end goal is. For example, I've disabled news notifications on my phone. I used to get pinged multiple times per day to be told that either someone had died in an accident, or was raped and murdered, or some other such thing. One might argue that I'm sticking my head in the sand and 'living in a bubble' by turning these off. But while I think it's beneficial to expose myself to ideas…

I've never understood people keeping enabled notifications which are not directly for them (like for email/IM/SMS messages and own calendar reminders). Must be people with a lot of spare time with nothing to do or someone who doesn't know how to disable notifications (I was just yesterday configuring mother's phone disabling notifications after she asked me to disable her lock screen completely since she doesn't use…

> It's odd to see someone who is neither of these groups keeping them enabled

I honestly only got a couple of those notifications before disabling them.

I was more trying to find an example of how curating a filter bubble can be healthy, but one that wasn't anything to do with Twitter since it's too politically charged for people to think clearly about.

Re: Bye, Twitter

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Post by chitowneats »

suzzer99 wrote: post #131
chitowneats wrote: post #105

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Twitter is very clear about its policy of banning accounts that promote real world violence.

Please explain how journalist Ben Collins, who they've been mass-targeting, is part of Antifa. There's a huge list of people that have been mass-reported who have nothing to do with Antifa. Anyone who crosses alt-right propagandist Andy Ngo has been subject to mass-reporting. These people aren't operating in good faith.

And yet, Ben Collins is not banned. It's almost as if a bunch of trolls can mass report people, and the company will handle the reports according to policy.

Next please.

Re: Bye, Twitter

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Post by m-p-3 »

progrus wrote: post #17

The same people who lost their marbles over COVID/fear of death are now losing their marbles again over a private platform being raided & turned into a public square. I stopped listening to these people years ago. Good riddance.

It's not a public square when the opposite ideology is pushed aside and the rules applied arbitrarily, both left or right.

It's never been a public square, it's just being polarized in the opposite direction.

Re: Bye, Twitter

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Post by funstuff007 »

ncallaway wrote: post #129
funstuff007 wrote: post #82

> whose proprietor is an alt-right troll I like tbray, and I don't like Elon, but that is not a fair characterization. It's right this post has been flagged.

Is it the troll part, or the alt-right part that you disagree with? He certainly seems like a troll to me.

He definitely takes joy in pointing out incongruencies. Troll is an offensive term.

Re: Bye, Twitter

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Post by rsynnott »

MikusR wrote: post #142
sheeshkebab wrote: post #36

Maybe it’s holidays but I noticed my twitter feed getting filled up lately with various far right types posting crap. I guess these idiots were always there but somehow they were drawn out by saner content that I care about, not anymore it seems. I’ll probably delete twitter too if that’s the way it will continue on after another a couple of weeks.

Twitter feed has only the people you follow.

I just opened up Twitter, and it is shoving some inane Musk tweet in my face. I certainly don't follow Elon, but some of the people I follow do, and that's good enough for Twitter (actually, it goes a bit further; it will on occasion show you things from people who none of your followers follow either, if they're 'trending').

Re: Bye, Twitter

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Post by rsynnott »

sheeshkebab wrote: post #36

Maybe it’s holidays but I noticed my twitter feed getting filled up lately with various far right types posting crap. I guess these idiots were always there but somehow they were drawn out by saner content that I care about, not anymore it seems. I’ll probably delete twitter too if that’s the way it will continue on after another a couple of weeks.

It's always been there, but it definitely does seem worse now. I've also noticed quite a lot more cryptospam.

Re: Bye, Twitter

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Post by theGnuMe »

taolegal wrote: post #110
theGnuMe wrote: post #44

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A small vocal minority of hate will eventually become mainstream if good people stand by and do nothing. Watch as Elon eviscerates the mainstream media. He already calls many legit publications disinformation, saying that twitter will be the best and most truthful source of news itself. It's straight out of Trump's playbook. These are the the robber barons of the Internet. Hearst has nothing on them. I see it as the…

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Do you have evidence of that? If so what is it? And what is the source and quality of that evidence?

Re: Bye, Twitter

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Post by bArray »

suzzer99 wrote: post #130
bArray wrote: post #99

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Please explain how journalist Ben Collins, who they've been mass-targeting, is part of Antifa. There's a huge list of people that have been mass-reported who have nothing to do with Antifa. Anyone who crosses alt-right propagandist Andy Ngo has been subject to mass-reporting. These people aren't operating in good faith.

I don't know Ben Collins or why he is on the list. My claim was that the panicked tagging of Antifa accounts would suggest that the list does contain Antifa members, or people associated, hence the panic. I don't imagine it can be taken at face value, but if the list is small it could be a starting point for an investigation.

Re: Bye, Twitter

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Post by dpdpdp »

suzzer99 wrote: post #134
BulgarianIdiot wrote: post #133

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> A very vocal subset of Elon's followers went from "free speech absolutists" to organized mass reporting their enemies in a matter of days. That has to be some kind of record. Keep in mind "Elon's fans" is not one guy. It's different groups of people with different agenda. Many cheered for free speech when Elon proclaimed it so. Many of those were right-wing due to the perception (and reality) that Twitter's moderat…

Elon has been interacting a lot with guys like Andy Ngo and Ian Miles Cheong. I refuse to believe he's unaware of who they are. https://twitter.com/MeidasTouch/status/1596344634443431937

Andy Ngo does nothing but post videos of innocent people being swarmed and attacked by violent mobs and tries to get them justice.

He is fighting against actual fascism.

Re: Bye, Twitter

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Post by RickJWagner »

I urge you to consider strongly this sort of thing.

Freedom of speech and of opinions is vital.

You can disagree with Musk (or even Trump) as much as you wish. But when you move to silence them (especially as part of a mob), you become the monster.

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