> the £7,695 tiny electric car that has no boot, a 28mph top speed and range of just 46 miles I live in Paris and do everything with an e-bike that also has no boot, no passenger seat, a top speed of ~20mph, a range of ~30 miles... but cost me around €1,200 (since I built it myself). It now has over 7,500 miles. In day trafic it's probably much faster than the Ami, and it can also be put on a train. Couldn't be happi…
The Citroen Ami – tiny electric car with no boot, 28mph top speed, 46 mile range
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Re: The Citroen Ami – tiny electric car with no boot, 28mph top speed, 46 mile range
#152The NEV category (basically golf cart) make sense in specific neighborhoods -- not in dense cities (where they're still too big), not in really long distance rural settings (although a Gator/UTV or something on your own property can be awesome), but in the right kind of suburban/resort/etc. community, amazing. I am not a big fan of bicycle/moped/motorcycle because I usually want more stuff with me if I'm not just goi…
> not in dense cities The Free2Move car sharing uses the car in the article in central Paris, which I understand is a fairly dense city.
Renting them is $0.30/minute
Compared to a Bird scooter which costs around $0.15/minute on average (with fees to start them) in the US
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#153Earlier quoted context omitted.
If people exercised instead of living in their cars/offices and walking 5 minutes per day they'd be able to do basic human things at 70 instead of having their body give up at 40
> If people exercised instead of living in their cars/offices and walking 5 minutes per day I did that. Running, cycling, walking, etc. Substantially more walking than 5 minutes a day, too... > instead of having their body give up at 40 ...and my right knee became unfixable trash somewhere between 45 and 50 (a variety of ailments, possibly exacerbated by a ~2001 injury.)
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#154Earlier quoted context omitted.
That 'raining, snowing, too hot, too cold' argument keeps coming up. You know, we humans are perfectly capable of dressing up appropriately and just enjoying the fresh air, whether it's warm or cold. In fact, it makes you feel alive! Get the nice warm gloves and raincoat out for winter, or the super light and loose shirt with sunglasses for summer.
Good luck convincing people to give up their cars and go to work soaked in a raincoat every day.
I live in Montreal and winter cycling used to be a really hardcore thing. Not anymore. Winters are warmer now, just a bit, but enough to make winter cycling pleasant on most days. Dedicated, snow-plowed cycling lanes made a huge difference.
(I use my car most of the time, because usually a daycare run with kid, but now we're equipped for maybe once a week by bike)
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#155Earlier quoted context omitted.
Aluminium-based antiperspirants work for days between re-use if anyone is worried about sweating (and yeah, according to studies it is not as unhealthy as people think it is, at least not in those amounts, and no one told you to bathe in it). Not being exposed to rain... well... I dunno, I live in Europe and people just dress up appropriately. Mostly it is just a matter of using an umbrella anyways... and proper clot…
> Aluminium-based antiperspirants work for days between re-use if anyone is worried about sweating Or go to the bathroom, change tshirt, use some deo and you're set for the day, it really isn't rocket science. You're exercising, saving hundreds of kilos of co2 per year, and saving 10+ sqmeter of parking space. Not to mention no gas, no insurance, virtually no maintenance.
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#156Earlier quoted context omitted.
Quite honestly, an ebike solves a lot of this. I thought I would never use it in the winter, but a cheap rain suit is perfect to keep me warm and dry, and takes about 20 seconds to put on or take off. I don’t have to worry about sweat since if I get too hot I can just use the throttle or dial up the electric assist. I thought I would never use the thing in winter, but I actually find it absurdly practical.
Sorry but that's delusional - riding in the rain, and especially when it's snowy/icy - is order of magnitude more dangerous - traction/breaking/reduced visibility.
You adjust speed and cycling style to the conditions, and for winter cycling there are plenty of good options for studded tires. The Nordics have succeeded in making winter cycling a more common activity, and you might want to check out the "winter cycling capital of the world": Oulu, Finland.
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They’ve been running that experiment with great success in the Netherlands since the 1970s. It’s great to see, and even better to experience in your everyday life. I love feeling connected to my environment.
The Netherlands is not a regular country and cannot be used as a template for any other country in the World, except maybe some flat urban area, like Copenhagen, or the Vatican (which has a few hills more than the Netherlands BTW) p.s. Dutch did not like to hear this, but somebody had to say it.
Re: The Citroen Ami – tiny electric car with no boot, 28mph top speed, 46 mile range
#158Earlier quoted context omitted.
Quite honestly, an ebike solves a lot of this. I thought I would never use it in the winter, but a cheap rain suit is perfect to keep me warm and dry, and takes about 20 seconds to put on or take off. I don’t have to worry about sweat since if I get too hot I can just use the throttle or dial up the electric assist. I thought I would never use the thing in winter, but I actually find it absurdly practical.
Sorry but that's delusional - riding in the rain, and especially when it's snowy/icy - is order of magnitude more dangerous - traction/breaking/reduced visibility.
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#159Earlier quoted context omitted.
What are the death rates for bicyclists vs small cars like this? I recently considered a motorcycle and the death rates were too appalling for me to go through with it. Having a metal cage around you and windows is too vital for me. Edit: I found this. >The motorcycle fatality rate is over 17 times greater, and bicycle fatality rates are nearly 10 times greater than that for automobiles.
The question is how often bikes get into an accident vs. cars, relative to the number of comparable trips made, which is difficult to measure. The above statistics probably only tell you that if you get into an accident that happens to get reported, what is your relative survival rate then. It’s not surprising that bike riders have a lower survival rate when a car is involved. That doesn’t mean that bike riders in ge…
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>Bikes are also more dangerous than small slow 4 wheeled vehicles. Cars are WAY more dangerous than bicycles.
> Cars are WAY more dangerous than bicycles wrong. cars are more dangerous on average (the concept of average should be banned from any statistical analysis) because they travel many many many more kilometers than the average bike and mostly for very long distances at high speed. But if you notice, I wrote "than slow 4 wheeled cars". Ami is much safer than a bike, especially for the occupants. Example: there are 3.75…
and most of those deaths were caused by cars.