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Was it DDLC? A 12-year old boy in Croatia commited suicide partly because of emotional trauma caused by it.
Do you have a reference for that? I can only find a 15 year old in Manchester vaguely linked to it (without any real evidence the game was involved.) https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manches... > Ms Kearsley said it was 'commonsense' to question the game's emotional impact but recording a verdict of suicide, she said: "We can make no direct link between Ben's death and his online gaming. Ben was a…
A meta-analysis of the effects of trigger warnings and content notes
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Re: A meta-analysis of the effects of trigger warnings and content notes
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Yeah this is where I was always confused, I think "trigger warning" has become one of those ill-defined concepts, especially in american political discourse, that mean so many things that they don't really mean anything anymore. Other examples: "liberal," which I've heard mean everything from anarchism through communism and all the way to its actual definition, "communism" which seems to mean fascism, "fascism" which…
I haven’t seen “grooming” used in a homophobic way? Instead it has been extended to mean “any relationship whatsoever with a vaguely unusual age gap.”
The term "grooming" is being used in a homophobic way in the USA by american politicians and media. This isn't a new homophobic stereotype, btw.
Re: A meta-analysis of the effects of trigger warnings and content notes
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> Most people only extend empathy to their in-group. The left just has a different in-group. Depends on how you define in-group I guess? Most of my leftist friends are straight and white, yet all of them support LGBT rights as human rights, went to Black Lives Matter protests, etc. Yet similar straight, white conservative former friends of mine do not extend empathy to the black american experience, or will outright…
It’s up to your leftist friends to define their in-group. Not me! Sounds like the in group is queer people, BLM people and so on. > A core tenant of leftist ideology is universal empathy, as a basis for support for universal human rights, equity, etc. There’s lots of people the modern “woke” left in the USA doesn’t seem to care about: poor people, people with low IQ, white people in conservative areas, people who liv…
When I said "most of my leftist friends are straight and white," what made you think our "in group" (i don't know what definition of this word you're using) is queer people?
> BLM people
What is a "BLM person" and why do when I say "most of my leftist friends are straight and white" made you think we're whatever a BLM person is?
> There’s lots of people the modern “woke” left in the USA doesn’t seem to care about
Who? And what does "woke" mean?
> poor people,
I don't know what "woke" means but I know what leftism mean. Are you arguing that the anticapitalists don't care about poor people, lol? That the accessibility activists don't care about disabled people? That we don't care about poor people because... they're white?
Hold on, that we don't care about homeless people??? what??? Where are you getting this lmao. And by men with specific male problems are you perhaps referring to transgender men facing state-sponsored prejudice and having their rights legislated against? Or gay men getting shot in nightclubs? Did you mean something else?
> white male friend of mine is utterly crippled by trauma from his absentee dad. He doesn’t feel like anyone in his broader community cares about him and his problems at all.
I'm sorry about your friend, that sucks. I just don't really understand what that has to do with anything.
> For a group that talks a lot about compassion, I’m frequently disappointed by how little love I actually see coming from the modern left.
I'm disappointed too. Who are you talking to? Do you come in accusing people of being SJWs and "woke" and then get treated like a reactionary, or are you coming in good faith or in need?
Re: A meta-analysis of the effects of trigger warnings and content notes
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He explains this in the thread - it appears as though trigger warnings only serve to increase anxiety until the trigger is experienced, and at no point does it improve or worsen the experience. So he analogizes this by saying "Imagine a doctor prescribed you a pill and you asked if it was going to help". If "Oh no, it won't help, but it might cause some very minor harm." was the response, you'd probably find a new do…
>He explains this in the thread - it appears as though trigger warnings only serve to increase anxiety until the trigger is experienced, and at no point does it improve or worsen the experience. Did it occur to the author that perhaps communicating when the triggering content is going to happen in advance , as well as giving a heads-up right before it to allow the people to make a choice to not experience it would be…
Of course I did. The point is that it wouldn't matter. You're not scared by the content, you're scared by the potential of that content. Knowing it's the next word would only drive anxiety even higher, even if you decide not to look at what might be a horrific description of my trauma. I mean, it could also be a description of a cute kitten cuddling, but I don't know and humans are risk averse, so the first thought is the worst one.
>It feels like the author (and HN) thoroughly misunderstands both the concept of trigger warnings and informed consent.
I think you've just misunderstood the author's point.
>Ads for medication are required to include possible side effects. That's a closer analogy.
That's a beyond broken analogy. This isn't about advertising potential side effects. It's about a cure which may not work. The cure is analogous to the advertisement. If the ad on the TV were the actually theraputic thing, your argument here might make at least a little sense.
> I am a very sad person
Cheer up - it looks like you're the only one here who can't follow the author's train of thought, but in the future you might wanna run it by someone else to see if they get it instantly or not