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Re: Twitter at 1am on a Friday

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Post by kamaal »

spoils19 wrote: post #150
kamaal wrote: post #143

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It's not just L visa(I was on L a few years back, and returned back). Let's be honest this is far from what people call slavery. They are being paid multiples of six digit salaries, RSUs and work in one of the most happening tech ecosystems of the world. I would love to be a part of something like this. Heck most of us would love to be a part of something like. I kind of envy those guys working on these projects. I h…

Agreed. I've missed multiple deaths in the family, important events with friends and sacrificed a large chunk of my life to be in one of the most happening tech ecosystems in the world. Even when I was eventually fired due to burn out, I walked away thinking to myself: "I still envy the people in that office, working hard for that CEO".

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Re: Twitter at 1am on a Friday

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Post by birksherty »

kamaal wrote: post #143
techolic wrote: post #84

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Just an example: if you hold an L visa, your only other option is packing your stuff and going back to your home country.

It's not just L visa(I was on L a few years back, and returned back). Let's be honest this is far from what people call slavery. They are being paid multiples of six digit salaries, RSUs and work in one of the most happening tech ecosystems of the world. I would love to be a part of something like this. Heck most of us would love to be a part of something like. I kind of envy those guys working on these projects. I h…

> Heck most of us would love to be a part of something like.

Nope. At 1 AM? Nope.

Nobody would be in office at 1 AM by choice, they had to for the paycheck.

Re: Twitter at 1am on a Friday

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Post by koonsolo »

kcplate wrote: post #31
sys_64738 wrote: post #17

Some people have families and a life outside of work. We sure as heck ain't staying until 1am for anybody.

I have a family and a life outside of work, and I can’t count how many all nighters I have pulled in 35+ years of my career. Sometimes you need to do them. Of course I was raised in a generation that believed it was in our best interest that our company’s were successful…

> our company

So you are the owner of the company? I was raised to put "our family" as a priority, and that means working for money, but doesn't include working like crazy and not getting compensated for it because it's in the best interest of "our company".

Re: Twitter at 1am on a Friday

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Post by koonsolo »

kcplate wrote: post #128
Imnimo wrote: post #108

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It's interesting that you naturally attribute this belief to upbringing rather than an actual justification.

Yes, I attribute my belief that it’s important for the company helping me via my compensation to feed, cloth, and shelter my family to be successful to my upbringing. I mean I don’t recall my parents ever saying “When you start working, do as little as possible because screw them they dont deserve your best effort.” Are you implying that contributing to your company’s success isn’t important? I mean I have helped mul…

In my experience, the most chaotic companies that were fire fighting all the time tried to pull this "there is this deadline and it has to be finished by X or else we die".

The successful companies on the other hand, are planning ahead and taking setbacks into account. Work was done properly so no crazy firefighting. They also don't burn out their employees.

Just my experience of a 43 yo developer.

Re: Twitter at 1am on a Friday

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Post by big_red »

cmh89 wrote: post #148
big_red wrote: post #122

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His habits. You can’t regularly work 80 hour weeks without packing a few tricks. You can’t build multiple billion dollar companies without knowing something others don’t. Often I find when talking to successful people, they’ll make a revealing offhand comment that’s pure gold and can in fact change your life - if you’re paying attention. An example might be Einstein and Steve Jobs having a full wardrobe of duplicates…

>His habits. His "habits" are asking the people with actual knowledge what to do and then sometimes ignoring them when he gets too involved in his twitter drama. >An example might be Einstein Elon had to lie about his Bachelors degree, please don't compare him to an actual genius.

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Re: Twitter at 1am on a Friday

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Post by MiguelX413 »

wskish wrote: post #115
MiguelX413 wrote: post #107

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It's still centralized, proprietary, and going to have the harmful business model of advertising, no?

Of all those, "advertising" is the only fundamentally evil one, and he is chipping away at that one.

I strongly disagree. Also what would he replace it with? You seriously don't think his alternative revenue sources meant to be anything but supplementary, do you?

Re: Twitter at 1am on a Friday

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Post by knewter »

birksherty wrote: post #152
kamaal wrote: post #143

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not just L visa(I was on L a few years back, and returned back). Let's be honest this is far from what people call slavery. They are being paid multiples of six digit salaries, RSUs and work in one of the most happening tech ecosystems of the world. I would love to be a part of something like this. Heck most of us would love to be a part of something like. I kind of envy those guys working on these projects. I h…

> Heck most of us would love to be a part of something like. Nope. At 1 AM? Nope. Nobody would be in office at 1 AM by choice, they had to for the paycheck.

Hahaha you've never met a real man, neat.

Re: Twitter at 1am on a Friday

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Post by papito »

rawgabbit wrote: post #8

Looks like a death march to the bitter end. A suicide pact.

You do a Death March project once in your career, as a lesson. Just so that the next time you see it coming from 100 miles away, you run, run hard.

Like in this case.

Those who peaced out made the right decision. This is beyond office heroics or hustle porn - this is just a rich, long-time former coder, way out of his depth, trying to relive the former glory of the mad days of the Internet boom, abusing people because he is having fun with this.

Re: Twitter at 1am on a Friday

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Post by timeon »

spoils19 wrote: post #150
kamaal wrote: post #143

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not just L visa(I was on L a few years back, and returned back). Let's be honest this is far from what people call slavery. They are being paid multiples of six digit salaries, RSUs and work in one of the most happening tech ecosystems of the world. I would love to be a part of something like this. Heck most of us would love to be a part of something like. I kind of envy those guys working on these projects. I h…

Agreed. I've missed multiple deaths in the family, important events with friends and sacrificed a large chunk of my life to be in one of the most happening tech ecosystems in the world. Even when I was eventually fired due to burn out, I walked away thinking to myself: "I still envy the people in that office, working hard for that CEO".

This reminds me Stockholm Syndrome.

Re: Twitter at 1am on a Friday

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Post by [deleted] »

dingaling wrote: post #142
divbzero wrote: post #130

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What puzzles me is that Twitter’s greatest challenges in recent years have not been technical. There shouldn’t be a technical emergency that requires an urgent call for all software engineers.

That single Tweet took eleven seconds to load on my phone, up to the point that all spinners stopped and all elements were visible. That seems typical for Twitter on the web these days and suggests there is something technically wrong in the stack.

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