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#151

So they will treat the following two tweets differently? • down with people who believe X! • long live people who believe not-X! The line between negativity and positivity is just a matter of framing.

Spot on. The terms "negativity" and "positivity" are basically tools for abuse.

Re: “Negative/hate tweets will be max deboosted and demonetized”

#153
There's some interesting discussion in this thread about whether this is the right or wrong move for Twitter. However, after the debacle last night, I think it's a moot point, I simply don't see twitter.com still running within the next few months, possibly within the next few weeks. He's fired 50% of the company, reports seem that conservatively 50% of the remainder just quit yesterday, their subscription service had to be cancelled in the process scaring off their primary revenue source. They don't seem to be in any position to moderate, develop features, or, if some ex-employees can be believed, even keep the service running with who they have left. I honestly think within the next week or two we'll see a significant outage of the platform, and it'll never be brought back up to 100%, if at all. It's a stunning display of incompetence from the once admired richest man on Earth. So he can make all the policy changes he wishes, I don't think anyone will be around to see them happen.

Re: “Negative/hate tweets will be max deboosted and demonetized”

#154
post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> At this point its best to hope markets dont start reconsidering your other companies as risky business. I think this is inevitable. One, Elon is trying to prop up Twitter by using SpaceX money to buy ads. He's dipping his hand into other companies to keep his new toy afloat for a while longer. I don't know if the word "contamination" is appropriate here, but it's pretty clear that Elon doesn't see any kind of sharp…

Elon deserves a lot of credit for Tesla. But now I'm starting to hear the term "Muskmobile" bandied about when people refer to his car. It's not like Tesla is the only game in town anymore either. In a weird tangent, I've been thinking about the TV Show "Ted Lasso", and why it's so popular lately. Ted Lasso is the exact opposite of Elon Musk, even to a fault. People don't care if Elon succeeds anymore, but they do wa…

Electric Jesus deserves credit for not firing the right people and shit a muskmobile that works eventually !

Re: “Negative/hate tweets will be max deboosted and demonetized”

#155
post #36

I'm certainly not a fan of how Musk has handled the Twitter takeover, but this sentiment, "New Twitter policy is freedom of speech, but not freedom of reach", seems highly reasonable to me, no? That is, what I find so awful about most social media (and places like YouTube) is how they focus on some of the most anger-inducing content for "engagement". That is, I think the problem is much more their algorithms than wha…

People’s problem with Twitter was always that they would arbitrarily decide what is or isn’t acceptable speech, and Elon’s new solution does…exactly the same thing. The only thing that will change now is that liberal politicians and views will start being targeted rather than conservative/alt-right ones. Is anyone here really naïve enough to believe that this whole saga has been about “free speech”? It is simply a sh…

> It is simply a shift of power from the left to the right, financed by a handful of billionaires, Wall Street banks and Saudi/Qatari Princes.

If anyone doesn't believe this how those involved viewed the situation, read Musk's text messages that were exposed in court[1].

[1] https://muskmessages.com/

Re: “Negative/hate tweets will be max deboosted and demonetized”

#156

I'm certainly not a fan of how Musk has handled the Twitter takeover, but this sentiment, "New Twitter policy is freedom of speech, but not freedom of reach", seems highly reasonable to me, no? That is, what I find so awful about most social media (and places like YouTube) is how they focus on some of the most anger-inducing content for "engagement". That is, I think the problem is much more their algorithms than wha…

Freedom to "yell into the void" isn't really a freedom of speech. They might as well post-it on the bathroom walls.

Re: “Negative/hate tweets will be max deboosted and demonetized”

#157

Many commentators seem to think this is a sudden, recent backpedaling from a previous absolutist view on free speech. However, Musk has been promoting the "freedom of speech" vs "freedom of reach" distinction for a while, at least months before his takeover, including describing how such a policy should be implemented at Twitter. Here's one example quote from June, 2022: “I think there’s this big difference between f…

Confusingly, that's what all the free speech absolutists spend their time yelling about. The right to not speak in the public square but have a megaphone.

I disagree. What the free speech side is arguing is that by trying to restrict "reach" you are trying to prevent interested consumers of that speech from ever hearing it.

The prime example is when someone's tweets don't show up in the timelines of subscribers. People who specifically what to hear that speech never get a chance to.

Re: “Negative/hate tweets will be max deboosted and demonetized”

#158

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Even if it is, he's right. Although this is anecdotal, I have a friend who works in finance that said the drop in stock was coincidental to the stock price dropping. Apparently pharmaceuticals are a defensive sector in a bear market, and the market popping up last week meant the price of Eli Lilly dropped, as I understand it. In his words that tweet causing the stock to drop was "fake news"

There is never going to be a way to conclusively ascribe the drop in stock price to any one event. However, the act of pointing out the high cost of insulin to a large audience not causing a drop in stock price would be highly suspect. I personally doubt it was the Tweet itself that caused the drop. No one should/would have believed it was an actual statement by Eli Lilly. But in a bear market, this bad publicity abo…

> bad publicity about the high price of a mandatory medication for a large population is likely going to have an effect.

I know this is orthogonal to the stock price drop, but this kind of bad publicity (gouging sick people in need of your product) actually turned out to be a good thing for the public and for overall justice.

Re: “Negative/hate tweets will be max deboosted and demonetized”

#159

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Even if it is, he's right. Although this is anecdotal, I have a friend who works in finance that said the drop in stock was coincidental to the stock price dropping. Apparently pharmaceuticals are a defensive sector in a bear market, and the market popping up last week meant the price of Eli Lilly dropped, as I understand it. In his words that tweet causing the stock to drop was "fake news"

There is never going to be a way to conclusively ascribe the drop in stock price to any one event. However, the act of pointing out the high cost of insulin to a large audience not causing a drop in stock price would be highly suspect. I personally doubt it was the Tweet itself that caused the drop. No one should/would have believed it was an actual statement by Eli Lilly. But in a bear market, this bad publicity abo…

> I personally doubt it was the Tweet itself that caused the drop. No one should/would have believed it was an actual statement by Eli Lilly.

Your second sentence is probably true, but the first one is questionable.

It's well-known that there are high-frequency stock trading bots which watch Twitter, news headlines, etc.

Re: “Negative/hate tweets will be max deboosted and demonetized”

#160
post #92
post #38

Not to put too fine a point on it, but this is the sort of damage control id expect to see from someone only peripherally aware of or involved in their businesses accountability or strategic operations. This concern from advertisers has existed far too long for an executive action to have any meaning. the marketing conference call on november 3rd was your red flag where advertisers voiced their displeasure with firin…

Please stop spreading the falsehood that Eli Lilly lost billions because of a fake verified tweet. https://medium.com/@westwise/did-twitter-just-take-8-billion...

Is it false? At most I think we can say it's unclear, but Eli Lilly seem to take it seriously since they pulled all their ad spend from twitter in response.

https://seekingalpha.com/news/3907399-fake-free-insulin-twee...

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