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Open source sustainment and the future of Gitea

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Re: Open source sustainment and the future of Gitea

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Post by throwaccount12 »

jonnytran wrote: post #143
throwaccount12 wrote: post #118

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The entire community The blog post says maintainers have been hired, as well as the Blender blog post is months old, seems like this has been public knowledge for a while, but that it is just formally being announced now. Edit: seems I am getting downvoted, but I searched dachary who has a financial interest in Gitea, and has posted about the company in the past, so he clearly has known about this for a while. I wo…

I currently work for a company where one of my co-workers is a maintainer of the official Gitea repo. There was no mention of this anywhere prior to the blog post, including in private Discord channels. It has _not_ been public knowledge for a while. What you said is false. I suspect that is why you're getting downvoted.

> What you said is false. I suspect that is why you're getting downvoted.

It's not, you can confirm what I said. Look at the link in the blog post that points to public mention of it months ago, as well as the user I replied to posts about the company to his personal site with excepts from the public matrix channel.

I'm active in open source and lots of chat happens in matrix, maybe your coworker missed it?

Re: Open source sustainment and the future of Gitea

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Post by throwaccount12 »

MaxBarraclough wrote: post #150
dachary wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This announcement took the entire Gitea community by surprise, including volunteer developers contributing code daily to the project. Gitea turned from being a community led democratic project to a company that owns the domains and the trademark, overnight. This is an even bigger problem than going open core and is begging for a fork to happen.

Great points. I agree there will be a backlash from contributors. As far as I can tell they don't ask contributors to hand over copyrights, but they use the permissive MIT-style licence which permits the creation of non-Free forks. Drew DeVault, of SourceHut fame, has written on this topic. [0][1] Drew's opinion is that he probably couldn't easily turn SourceHut to the 'open core' model even if he wanted to, on accou…

AGPL has a bad reputation because it has been weaponized against the community from companies like Elastic.

Re: Open source sustainment and the future of Gitea

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Post by techknowlogick »

barnabee wrote: post #91
throwaccount12 wrote: post #25

Lots of focus on the DAO mention in the post, but it looking at the concrete things in the blog post instead of some "experiment", there are direct funding models of selling hosting, support services, training and more. The DAO is likely just a way to make the governance of the community more transparent, but I think people are confusing it with creating a crypto coin.

I’d rather see funding come from a crypto token that keeps the software completely open source than enterprise sales, aid hosted versions, and going “open core”. I don’t understand how anyone believes that the current trend of so called “open source” startups is good for free software or anyone other than investors. Given that, I’m very up for experimentation with new types of organisational and finding models for op…

Hi Barnabee. I'm the author of the blog post. Thanks for your comments. I'd be interested to know why you would prefer funding come from an external crypto token instead of a paying for a hosted version. I would think that dogfooding is a way to stay on focus on the main project instead of being distracted by something else.

Re: Open source sustainment and the future of Gitea

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Post by remram »

tucnak wrote: post #83
remram wrote: post #5

I've been donating to Gitea for years (on their Open Collective [1]) but if they start with this cryptocurrency/blockchain stuff, I am out. I am trying to fund development, not invest unstable currency technology. Gitea itself started as a fork of Gogs, it wouldn't be too surprising to see it fork again if they start being creative with the brand. [1]: https://opencollective.com/gitea

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A poor girl from Iran or Venezuela, buying rice with Ethereum? I believe it.

Re: Open source sustainment and the future of Gitea

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Post by remram »

throwaccount12 wrote: post #113
remram wrote: post #5

I've been donating to Gitea for years (on their Open Collective [1]) but if they start with this cryptocurrency/blockchain stuff, I am out. I am trying to fund development, not invest unstable currency technology. Gitea itself started as a fork of Gogs, it wouldn't be too surprising to see it fork again if they start being creative with the brand. [1]: https://opencollective.com/gitea

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No, it's not. I have stopped donating from this account, not that it's any of your business.

Posting from a throwaway account and tracking down other people's donation history is REALLY f'd up, by the way.

Re: Open source sustainment and the future of Gitea

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Post by gkya »

tucnak wrote: post #83
remram wrote: post #5

I've been donating to Gitea for years (on their Open Collective [1]) but if they start with this cryptocurrency/blockchain stuff, I am out. I am trying to fund development, not invest unstable currency technology. Gitea itself started as a fork of Gogs, it wouldn't be too surprising to see it fork again if they start being creative with the brand. [1]: https://opencollective.com/gitea

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literally shut the fuck up

Re: Open source sustainment and the future of Gitea

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Post by _pfxa »

techknowlogick wrote: post #133

Hi everyone. I'm the author of the blog post above, and I am sorry that I caused so much confusion. I have spent much of today trying to clear things up, and will be writing a follow up to the post. I see some concern around the mention of a DAO, I tried to get across in the blog post that community is incredibly important, and so I mentioned it as a possible way to ensure community governance, not to create a crypto…

You say in the blog post itself

> To preserve the community aspect of Gitea we are experimenting with creating a decentralized autonomous organization where contributors would receive benefits based on their participation such as from code, documentation, translations, and perhaps even assisting individual community members with support questions.

This is a DAO where you earn scrip through a gamified version of FOSS development. This has nothing to do with "community" (which is a word I'm pretty sick of hearing coming from the mouths of software devs and tech companies).

Re: Open source sustainment and the future of Gitea

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Post by ddevault »

mdaniel wrote: post #127
ddevault wrote: post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We're in the midst of a planned maintenance window: https://status.sr.ht/issues/2022-10-24-planned-outage/

Merely for your consideration, if you were to rewrite the 502 template to mention your status page, it could save these kinds of "communication gaps" in the future

Yeah, it's on the todo list.

Re: Open source sustainment and the future of Gitea

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Post by techknowlogick »

hrbf wrote: post #37

Gitea is a great piece of software. In fact, when starting out with self hosting, I found it to be a very capable solution with a small footprint. Over time I realized: I don’t need to be able to merge pull requests and do code reviews in a web interface. Nowadays I’m invested in a plain Git/SSH setup with cgit as a web frontend and email patches. It never breaks, is as secure as your server is and does everything yo…

Hi, I'm the author of the blog post. Thank you for your comment. A project you may find interesting is soft-serve from charm.sh https://github.com/charmbracelet/soft-serve it's a "TUI" (terminal user interface).
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