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87% of American teens own an iPhone; 88% expect an iPhone to be their next phone

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Re: 87% of American teens own an iPhone; 88% expect an iPhone to be their next phone

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Post by michaelmrose »

twobitshifter wrote: post #47
heavyset_go wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We like to fingerwag at social media companies for knowingly negatively impacting children's mental health and self-esteem, yet Apple is aware of how their systems ostracize children, in their own peer groups, who can't afford to carry around luxury phones. It's one thing to be ostracized by strangers on social media, it's an entirely other thing to be ostracized by your own friends and peers. The latter is tragicall…

Is the iPhone se really luxury? If you are starting from the idea that every teen will have a smart phone, I think apple has blanketed the market with products at all the cost points.

The average worldwide cost of a smartphone is ~$300.

Android phones can be bought new in box for $50-$170. The iphone SE which is basically last years model starts at $429 and comes without the power bring which allows you to plug into an outlet which costs an additional $18. That is iphones start at a cost more than the majority spend on a phone admittedly worldwide but that isn't what I call all cost points.

Re: 87% of American teens own an iPhone; 88% expect an iPhone to be their next phone

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Post by garyfirestorm »

hsbauauvhabzb wrote: post #99
kylehotchkiss wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I just got a backup iPhone SE for $430. It's fantastic. Same chip as recent iPhones. Very decent camera. Better battery life than my 13 pro. Actually fits in pocket. More fun to play games with one-handed. Easily will last 5 years with a case. Not a luxury device, but pretty competitive with what a lot of young people in even middle-income countries would pay for phones.

$430 is a lot to some people.

Average yearly income in India 1875$ iPhoneSE for kids - 430$ I think it’s unobtainable for most of the people

https://www.statista.com/statistics/802122/india-net-nationa...

Re: 87% of American teens own an iPhone; 88% expect an iPhone to be their next phone

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Post by 2OEH8eoCRo0 »

eatsyourtacos wrote: post #116

I hate apple with a passion for not opening up iMessage, but here we are. That being said, I am getting my first iPhone in just a few days because I am sick of the 100000 choices between android phones that all suck in one way or another. I don't believe they will last more than a few years if my last samsung is any indication. And I don't give a crap about what android can do- I just want a phone that works. So I gu…

I see this a lot around here. HN user hates company with a passion but buys their products rather than deal with some minor annoyance.

I guess you don't hate Apple with a passion then.

Re: 87% of American teens own an iPhone; 88% expect an iPhone to be their next phone

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Post by samatman »

grosswait wrote: post #125
fortylove wrote: post #44

I tried avoiding the iPhone bandwagon for practically a decade, going from flip phone to the HTC Droid Incredible, to some HTC M , to Samsung S4, and then a series of Pixel phones, starting with the OG Pixel, and ending with the Pixel 3. I have to say: besides a few clunky swipe experiences, the iPhone is better in every single way. The camera opens when I click the camera button. The phone pairs wonderfully with my…

I was forced to iPhone 18 months ago and while it isn’t as bad as I’d feared, notifications just don’t seem right to me on iOS. I’m constantly missing things that I never would have on a Pixel.

There's a learning curve with any new platform.

Apple recently added "modes", which I like about 80% of the time, and 20% of the time I'm in the wrong mode for whatever reason and the wrong set of notifications get sent.

You can turn it off if you'd like.

Re: 87% of American teens own an iPhone; 88% expect an iPhone to be their next phone

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Post by dariosalvi78 »

shawabawa3 wrote: post #82
rsync wrote: post #2

My two oldest children - 13 and 15 - have loudly proclaimed that having a "green bubble" would be worse than death .

Do people on androids in the US actually use SMS? My experience in the UK and France is WhatsApp/telegram have basically 100% penetration and SMS is only used by businesses and 2fa

iMessage is a very US thing

Re: 87% of American teens own an iPhone; 88% expect an iPhone to be their next phone

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Post by nbzso »

There is no sane technologically educated person who will buy Apple or Google phone. It is obvious that the smartphones are data gathering and control tools for the surveillance economy. Degoogled smartphone with limited usage is the safest bet for now. Apple computers are still valuable, when configured properly, but I don't have a high hopes for the future. Apple will lock whatever they can to "protect" the bottomline and expand the Imperium.

Re: 87% of American teens own an iPhone; 88% expect an iPhone to be their next phone

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Post by 2OEH8eoCRo0 »

CollinEMac wrote: post #33

This is surprising but I'm more surprised by the finding that "26% of teens own a VR device" Is VR really getting that popular?

A recent NYT article mentions that Horizons is awash in teens and pre-teens.

Re: 87% of American teens own an iPhone; 88% expect an iPhone to be their next phone

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Post by r00fus »

hdlothia wrote: post #60
JPKab wrote: post #21

My 16 year old son has an iPhone because Apple has the best parental control integration built-in. Kids can always get around it, which is why I have monitoring the little bastard doesn't know about via my WiFi router, along with automated deactivation of his cellular data connection via a schedule with the carrier (after 10 PM on weekdays). The "green bubble" crap that I get from my iPhone owning buddies due to my P…

As a parent of a toddler wondering why you deactivate th data. To disincentivize sneaking out? Preventing game addiction or too much social media?

Yes. My kids aren't old enough for that (they are all asleep at 9pm still) but if I had one that did I'd definitely find a way to ensure they avoided pitfalls I suffered through in school (game addition is a really debilitating habit and can remain with some for years afterwards).

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Post by purpleblue »

heavyset_go wrote: post #24
rsync wrote: post #2

My two oldest children - 13 and 15 - have loudly proclaimed that having a "green bubble" would be worse than death .

We like to fingerwag at social media companies for knowingly negatively impacting children's mental health and self-esteem, yet Apple is aware of how their systems ostracize children, in their own peer groups, who can't afford to carry around luxury phones. It's one thing to be ostracized by strangers on social media, it's an entirely other thing to be ostracized by your own friends and peers. The latter is tragicall…

Absolutely absurd statement.

Is this similar to the "trauma" suffered by teens that wore Levi's Jeans that didn't have the Red Tab, back in the 80s and 90s? To compare a green text bubble to mental health issues is offensive.

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Post by leetrout »

Gigachad wrote: post #114
Conan_Kudo wrote: post #105

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's pretty luxury nowadays. Decent smartphones go for less than half that cost, and good ones can be even cheaper. The accessibility and affordability of high quality mobile computing devices has risen across the board. But Apple is very much on the upper mid range to high end side of things.

You can get older iPhones for almost free. And they work fully with iMessage

Locally? Or is there a reputable place online?
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