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Pentagon Puts DJI on Blacklist

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Post by dchichkov »

ok_dad wrote: post #133
collegeburner wrote: post #99

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fr i don't think it's a coincidence that our market has been flooded by software-controlled chinesium. not to get too tinfoil-hatty but it makes sense from the chinese perspective.

We did that shit to ourselves with our offshoring and MBA bullshit. China just took advantage of it like any superpower would. America's commercial greed is what will cause it's downfall to China, if anything. Not that I even ascribe to the idea that China and the US should even be enemies, that's just more "red scare" BS.

China have a "Made-in-China" plan, one of its goal is good old control of means of production. Is there something like that in the US?

Re: Pentagon Puts DJI on Blacklist

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Post by ok_dad »

dchichkov wrote: post #151
ok_dad wrote: post #133

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We did that shit to ourselves with our offshoring and MBA bullshit. China just took advantage of it like any superpower would. America's commercial greed is what will cause it's downfall to China, if anything. Not that I even ascribe to the idea that China and the US should even be enemies, that's just more "red scare" BS.

China have a "Made-in-China" plan, one of its goal is good old control of means of production. Is there something like that in the US?

Yea, the trillions we spent being the world police for decades, our political push for oil to be priced in usd, etc.

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Post by ethanbond »

karambyt wrote: post #148
ethanbond wrote: post #128

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Yes same for tactical nukes

I hate this argument because it's fucking stupid. I think we can draw a clear and logical line between "gun" and "doomsday device".

Yeah, there’s a line somewhere obviously, but it’s also not defined by “is it an arm? Okay then you have a right to bear it!”

As technology advances, either we have to be comfortable with more and more destructive devices being in the hands of everyday people, or we have to be comfortable with restricting access to more and more devices that qualify as “arms.”

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Post by yrgulation »

_kbh_ wrote: post #31
fasteddie31003 wrote: post #21

The Ukrainian-Russo war has shown the military the power of offensive drones. You think they are going to allow civilians to own such powerful potential weapons in the future? I think offensive drone warfare is just scratching the surface. I can think of a few modifications to drones, I've yet to see in Ukraine, that could increase their lethality 10x.

Some of the drones used by Ukraine have pretty wild so far, one ive seen rarely mentioned is this unknown larger drone that drops 10 grenades at a time, carpet bombing an area. https://twitter.com/uaweapons/status/1555657070245986309

I imagine the ukranian weapons industry will make a killing post war. Some of their tools are impressive mvps that have a proven product market fit.

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Post by autoexec »

squeaky-clean wrote: post #103
magic_hamster wrote: post #75

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If it's really a case of gating permissions, I still don't like it. I used a few apps that utilize Bluetooth without asking for location, even when they aren't the obvious use case (like headphones), although admittedly it's been a while since then. Afair, I don't recall the Mimo app asking me to turn on wifi for the stabilizer. But maybe yes and I just turned it off after connecting to the device. The operation of t…

For the majority of smartphone's existence no permission was necessary, probably because no one ever considered it. Then it was learned stores, for example Target, were using their mobile app to broadcast Bluetooth signals in order to track shoppers movement around the store. So around 2019 Android added it to the general location permission to use Bluetooth for anything other than audio transmission to/from a paired…

> So around 2019 Android added it to the general location permission to use Bluetooth for anything other than audio transmission to/from a paired device if device pairing is handled by the OS, hidden from the app.

Stores don't need your permission or even their own app to be installed on your phone in order to use bluetooth to track people as they move around their stores. If you have bluetooth enabled on your device at all it can be used to track you.

The store just needs to place inexpensive low powered beacons around their store and they will record and log every device that passes within range.

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Post by autoexec »

maxwell wrote: post #84
firecall wrote: post #39

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Assault Rifles seem to be ok for the US government to place into the hands of US civilians.

You have it backwards: the U.S. government is explicitly prohibited constitutionally from infringing the human right to bear arms.

That's why everyone can buy sell and own nukes!

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Post by autoexec »

karambyt wrote: post #148
ethanbond wrote: post #128

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Yes same for tactical nukes

I hate this argument because it's fucking stupid. I think we can draw a clear and logical line between "gun" and "doomsday device".

I think it's a lot more stupid to assume that laws put in place to allow for single fire muskets that took significant amounts of time to load and fire should automatically equally apply to machine guns.

We should be able to draw a clear and logical line between the kinds of guns the people who wrote the constitution envisioned the American people owning and the kinds of guns we have today, but obviously not everyone agrees with that. They all agree there is a difference and that lines exist, but feel that they should just be ignored.

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Post by autoexec »

endisneigh wrote: post #108

Haven’t been keeping up with this - have regular people been affected negatively by the privacy issue, ccp etc?

It's hard to say. That's the problem with privacy violations. If a store charges you more than the next person for the same item they aren't going to tell you that it's because of data they bought from some third party and there's no telling where that third party got your data from or how accurate it is.

If someone goes to china and they get disappeared the Chinese government isn't going to tell anyone that they were taken let alone that it was because of data they got by surveillance of their mobile device.

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