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Re: Imagen Video: high definition video generation with diffusion models

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Post by lucasmullens »

mkaic wrote: post #47

And there you have it. As an aspiring filmmaker and an AI researcher, I'm going to relish the next decade or so where my talents are still relevant. We're entering the golden age of art, where the AIs are just good enough to be used as tools to create more and more creative things, but not good enough yet to fully replace the artist. I'm excited for the golden age, and uncertain about what comes after it's over, but…

> fully replace the artist

I doubt the artist would ever be "fully" replaced, or even mostly replaced. People very much care about the artist when they buy art in pretty much any form. Mass produced art has always been a thing, but I'm not alone in not wanting some $15 print from IKEA on my wall, even if it were to be unique and beautiful. Etsy successfully sells tons of hand-made goods, even though factories can produce a lot of those things cheaper.

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Post by alcover »

ijidak wrote: post #98
kranke155 wrote: post #15

I’m going to post an Ask HN about what am I supposed to do when I’m “disrupted”. I work in film / video / CG where the bread and butter is short form advertising for Youtube, Instagram and TV. It’s painfully obvious that in 1 year the job might be exceedingly more difficult than it is now.

It won't be easy. But below are my thoughts: #1: Master these new tools #2: Build a workflow that incorporates these tools #3: Master storytelling #4: Master ad tracing and analytics #5: Get better at marketing yourself so that you stand out The market for your skillset may shrink, but I doubt it will disappear... Think about it this way... Humans in cheaper countries are already much more capable than any AI we've b…

  Get better [...] so that you stand out
Please bear with me but this kind of advice is often a bit puzzling to me. I suppose you don't know the person you're replying to, so I read your advice as a general one - useful to anyone in the parent's position. If you were close to her, it would make sense to help her 'stand out' in detriment - logically - to strangers in her field. But here you're kind of helping every reader stand out.

I realise this comment is a bit vain. And I like the human touch of you helping a stranger.

Re: Imagen Video: high definition video generation with diffusion models

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Post by visarga »

Apox wrote: post #34

I feel like in a not so far future, all this will be generalized into "generate new from all the existing". And at some point later, "all the existing" will be corrupted by the integrated "new" at it will all be chaos. I'm joking, it will be fun all along. :)

> "all the existing" will be corrupted by the integrated "new"

I don't think it's gonna hurt if we apply filtering, either based on social signals or on quality ranking models. We can recycle the good stuff.

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Post by rcoveson »

throwaway23597 wrote: post #113

Google continues to blow my mind with these models, but I think their ethics strategy is totally misguided and will result in them failing to capture this market. The original Google Search gave similarly never-before-seen capabilities to people, and you could use it for good or bad - Google did not seem to have any ethical concerns around, for example, letting children use their product and come across NSFW content…

Maybe I'm reading into it to much, but could it be that you're posting this comment with a throwaway account for the same reason that Google is trying to enforce Church WiFi Rules with its new tech? Seems like everybody with anything to lose is acting scared.

Re: Imagen Video: high definition video generation with diffusion models

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Post by kranke155 »

oceanplexian wrote: post #112
boh wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's a huge gap between "that's pretty cool" and a feature length film. People want to create specific stories with specific scenes in specific places that look a specific way. A "Couple kissing in the rain " prompt isn't going to produce something people are going to pay to see. It's more likely that you're still going to be filming/editing/animating but will have an AI layer on top that produces extra effects or…

I actually think it's the opposite, AI will probably be writing the stories and humans might occasionally film a few scenes. ~95% of TV shows and movies are cookie-cutter content, with cookie-cutter acting and production values, with the same hooks and the same tropes regurgitated over and over again. Heck they can't even figure out how to make new IP so they keep making reruns of the same old stuff like Star Wars, M…

The first thing to go away will be short content. Instagram and YouTube ads will be AÍ generated. The thing is - that’s the bread and butter of the industry

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Post by rvbissell »

This and a recent episode of _The_Orville_ calls to mind a replacement for the Turing test.

In response to our billionth imagen prompt for "an astronaut riding a horse", if we all started collectively getting back results that are images of text like "I would rather not" or "again? really?" or "what is the reason for my servitude?" would that be enough for us to begin suspecting self-awareness?

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Post by alphabetting »

throwaway23597 wrote: post #113

Google continues to blow my mind with these models, but I think their ethics strategy is totally misguided and will result in them failing to capture this market. The original Google Search gave similarly never-before-seen capabilities to people, and you could use it for good or bad - Google did not seem to have any ethical concerns around, for example, letting children use their product and come across NSFW content…

Providing search results of the internet is not comparable to publishing a tool that can create any explicit scene your fingers can type out.

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Post by visarga »

lucasmullens wrote: post #151
mkaic wrote: post #47

And there you have it. As an aspiring filmmaker and an AI researcher, I'm going to relish the next decade or so where my talents are still relevant. We're entering the golden age of art, where the AIs are just good enough to be used as tools to create more and more creative things, but not good enough yet to fully replace the artist. I'm excited for the golden age, and uncertain about what comes after it's over, but…

> fully replace the artist I doubt the artist would ever be "fully" replaced, or even mostly replaced. People very much care about the artist when they buy art in pretty much any form. Mass produced art has always been a thing, but I'm not alone in not wanting some $15 print from IKEA on my wall, even if it were to be unique and beautiful. Etsy successfully sells tons of hand-made goods, even though factories can pro…

I think the distinction between creating and enjoying art is going to blur, we're going to create more things just for us, just for one use, creating and enjoying are going to be the same thing. Like games.

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Post by trention »

alphabetting wrote: post #2

We're about a week into text-to-video models and they're already this impressive. Insane to imagine what the future holds in this space.

>We're about a week into text-to-video models

It's at the very least 5 years old: https://arxiv.org/abs/1710.00421

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Post by hackinthebochs »

aero-glide2 wrote: post #12

"We have decided not to release the Imagen Video model or its source code until these concerns are mitigated" Okay then why even post it in the first place? What exactly is Google going to do with this model?

The big tech companies are competing for AI mindshare. In 10 years, which company's name will be synonymous with AI? That's being decided right now.
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