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Re: Are You Ready for the Internet? (1994) [video]

#152

It's amazing just how quickly you can catch the under estimation of the internet's potential. Within the first sentence, starting with the word "imagine", the largest image that could be conjured is related to viewing content created offline, rather than creating and sharing it within the internet itself. In the furthest stretches of the imagination, the prediction still falls very short. No criticism to anyone in 19…

> the largest image that could be conjured is related to viewing content created offline Its because 1990s world was still the feudal, one-way world in which large corporations dominated everything and the users 'knew their place' and consumed content and products. Occasionally, a corporation would stoop low as to ask users' feedback to improve their product. And people would praise and elevate that corporation as be…

> Early Internet still reflected that world order.

Early internet had little to none of that world order. Those corporations are slow to act and tend to be last to the party.

I think you're conflating people from that world order and how they interpreted the internet, with how the internet actually was.

> User-generated content lived in the fringes of the Internet in those days. It was the plebs' place. The unwashed.

User generated content was a large majority of the content of the early internet. Usenet. MUDs. Email. Forums. Random people's university websites.

Re: Are You Ready for the Internet? (1994) [video]

#153

It's amazing just how quickly you can catch the under estimation of the internet's potential. Within the first sentence, starting with the word "imagine", the largest image that could be conjured is related to viewing content created offline, rather than creating and sharing it within the internet itself. In the furthest stretches of the imagination, the prediction still falls very short. No criticism to anyone in 19…

> the largest image that could be conjured is related to viewing content created offline Its because 1990s world was still the feudal, one-way world in which large corporations dominated everything and the users 'knew their place' and consumed content and products. Occasionally, a corporation would stoop low as to ask users' feedback to improve their product. And people would praise and elevate that corporation as be…

> Its because 1990s world was still the feudal, one-way world in which large corporations dominated everything

Unlike today, right?

Re: Are You Ready for the Internet? (1994) [video]

#154

It's amazing just how quickly you can catch the under estimation of the internet's potential. Within the first sentence, starting with the word "imagine", the largest image that could be conjured is related to viewing content created offline, rather than creating and sharing it within the internet itself. In the furthest stretches of the imagination, the prediction still falls very short. No criticism to anyone in 19…

> the largest image that could be conjured is related to viewing content created offline Its because 1990s world was still the feudal, one-way world in which large corporations dominated everything and the users 'knew their place' and consumed content and products. Occasionally, a corporation would stoop low as to ask users' feedback to improve their product. And people would praise and elevate that corporation as be…

The PLATO system had online user feedback in the 70s, and users were able to add content, including making their own lessons and games. Helps that it was an educational system, running on connected networks at different universities.

Re: Are You Ready for the Internet? (1994) [video]

#155

It's amazing just how quickly you can catch the under estimation of the internet's potential. Within the first sentence, starting with the word "imagine", the largest image that could be conjured is related to viewing content created offline, rather than creating and sharing it within the internet itself. In the furthest stretches of the imagination, the prediction still falls very short. No criticism to anyone in 19…

> the largest image that could be conjured is related to viewing content created offline Its because 1990s world was still the feudal, one-way world in which large corporations dominated everything and the users 'knew their place' and consumed content and products. Occasionally, a corporation would stoop low as to ask users' feedback to improve their product. And people would praise and elevate that corporation as be…

> Early Internet still reflected that world order. It was a one way street in which the people consumed what the corporations produced. There weren't even comment forms under any article in any prominent publication. After all, who are you, a lowly pleb, to comment under an article in which a glorious, 6-figure columnist from the 'right background' wrote. Know your place.

I think this is a fair statement for the world wide web (although there were pretty notable standouts, particularly in the very late 90s), but every other protocol was far more democratized with very little corporate influence, and those protocols were far more relevant in 1994 than they are now.

Re: Are You Ready for the Internet? (1994) [video]

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Disappointed to not find a flower shop at branch.com:1080

http://web.archive.org/web/19961020151638/http://branch.com/ Even the order form is still there, ready for your credit card. There's a link on the order form, "credit card concerns"... > "...we feel that using a credit card here may be more secure than using it at your local restaurant. We don't know. We haven't had a problem in this area." I guess "we don't know" covers them just in case things go wrong!

Even if it worked, ordering flowers from port 80 just wouldn't be the same.

Re: Are You Ready for the Internet? (1994) [video]

#157

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> the largest image that could be conjured is related to viewing content created offline Its because 1990s world was still the feudal, one-way world in which large corporations dominated everything and the users 'knew their place' and consumed content and products. Occasionally, a corporation would stoop low as to ask users' feedback to improve their product. And people would praise and elevate that corporation as be…

> Early Internet still reflected that world order. Early internet had little to none of that world order. Those corporations are slow to act and tend to be last to the party. I think you're conflating people from that world order and how they interpreted the internet, with how the internet actually was. > User-generated content lived in the fringes of the Internet in those days. It was the plebs' place. The unwashed.…

I was going to say this as well. Even pre internet my first inclination from dialing BBS was how do I make one of these? How can I get a dedicated phone line in my bedroom? From there, chatting with people who called my board, then moving to IRC which was all UGC. Bots, scripts, file hosts etc. distributed servers.

I think my take away is more that these large “visions” of what the internet could be were made by outsiders from an outside vantage point. They had difference answers to the question of what the internet could be. The insiders were too busy playing around on it to think about answering that question.

Re: Are You Ready for the Internet? (1994) [video]

#158

It's amazing just how quickly you can catch the under estimation of the internet's potential. Within the first sentence, starting with the word "imagine", the largest image that could be conjured is related to viewing content created offline, rather than creating and sharing it within the internet itself. In the furthest stretches of the imagination, the prediction still falls very short. No criticism to anyone in 19…

This video certainly isn't the most profound take on the future of the internet at that time. By this point people were predicting just about everything we have now. Mainstream coverage of that has always sounded out of touch.

I sort of arrived at this as well in my comment above. This is mainstream media with a more outsider take vs insiders actually building stuff on the internet. I still don’t think anyone really had the vision of everything today.

Re: Are You Ready for the Internet? (1994) [video]

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post #90

For some reason this made me flashback to the summer of 1981 when MTV first went on the air https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8r-tXRLazs Spot the mainframe cabinet and wait for the full wall Moog (they actually showed non-stop videos back then, it was awesome, nothing like it before)

They went like the first two or three years without commercials. Hard to believe now.

Or, viewed another way: they played nothing but commercials (for albums, concerts, and merch)

Re: Are You Ready for the Internet? (1994) [video]

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post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For a while, I remember "The Net" being used. It sounds very wrong now.

Probably due to that provocative movie on cable TV by the same name. It had that girl from the bus.

And the hottest band on the internet.
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