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Re: The Framework Laptop Chromebook Edition

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Post by protomyth »

teawrecks wrote: post #96
protomyth wrote: post #88

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We bought refurb HP and Lenovo laptops for less than $400. >$900 for student laptops is a big no-go. I guess if you were a bigger University, but I cannot see it for the average school.

Though in theory, upgrading/repairing these over time would be cheaper than spending $400 every few years or each time a kid breaks one.

Well, the thing is, because of COVID and some other factors, we figured it was better just to give it to the student and tell them if they break it, then its their problem. Admittedly, a bit mercenary, but we are a community college and students should lean to be careful. Now, we'll help of course in odd circumstances and we did purchase extended warranties.

Strangely, its easier to get money for purchases than have a repair budget, but that US government funding for you.

Re: The Framework Laptop Chromebook Edition

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jeffbee wrote: post #49
mrgalaxy wrote: post #10

I’m reminded of this line in Bruce Almighty: “All this horsepower and no room to gallup” Is there really a market for a $999 Chromebook? Didn’t google try this several years ago and flop?

This class of comment is pretty tired. Google Pixelbook did not "flop" it proved the viability of the $1000+ Chromebook market for serious users. There are Chromebooks on the market at all price points. You can build-to-order a HP Elite Dragonfly with a state-of-the-art CPU, 32GB of RAM, and 512GB of flash for $3200 and these are back-ordered to March 2023 so clearly the customers exist.

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Re: The Framework Laptop Chromebook Edition

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Post by jeffbee »

nightpool wrote: post #147
madeofpalk wrote: post #139

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Google just killed the Pixelbook division https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2022/09/google-hardware-repo...

I think that makes sense though—partnering with companies like Framework and HP to get the hardware right while refocusing on the software experiencing in-house doesn't mean they don't believe in the market fit for the Pixelbook or the technologies that powered it, it just means that there was enough interest externally that Google doesn't need to take on the hardware complexity/supply chain risk/etc. Partnering with…

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Re: The Framework Laptop Chromebook Edition

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Post by nightpool »

michaelt wrote: post #119
nrp wrote: post #59

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It's a valid question. Since there are few to no current products in this segment, we really are testing it. We get to do tests like this much more efficiently than most because we can leverage our existing modular product and build just new modules needed for it.

Did your partners at Google give you any indication of how successful their ~£1300 Pixelbook Go i7 [1] was? [1] https://www.johnlewis.com/google-pixelbook-go-ga00526-uk-lap...

It seems unlikely that they would be able to share that information publicly, even if they did have it.

Re: The Framework Laptop Chromebook Edition

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Post by paxys »

duped wrote: post #83
hn_throwaway_99 wrote: post #68

This is awesome! I still use my Pixelbook, and I love it, and was always dismayed that it seemed to be yet another great product that Google lost interest in. For folks wondering "who's the market in this?", the Linux container support in ChromeOS is awesome - my Pixelbook was actually a great dev laptop (I ran postgres, VSCode, Node, etc on it), just with age it's lack of upgrades is starting to show. So for me, on…

I think the question is, why ChromeOS instead of a Linux?

You can actually recommend ChromeOS to your non technical friends

Re: The Framework Laptop Chromebook Edition

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Post by intrasight »

kyrra wrote: post #102
hn_throwaway_99 wrote: post #68

This is awesome! I still use my Pixelbook, and I love it, and was always dismayed that it seemed to be yet another great product that Google lost interest in. For folks wondering "who's the market in this?", the Linux container support in ChromeOS is awesome - my Pixelbook was actually a great dev laptop (I ran postgres, VSCode, Node, etc on it), just with age it's lack of upgrades is starting to show. So for me, on…

Googler, opinions are my own. Google definitely has not lost interest. The Chromebook team at Google is actually involved in almost (all?) Chromebooks made. Since Google is responsible for all firmware/software updates for the life of that Chromebook, they are involved in that way. As well, the hardware/firmware teams here do a lot of the core engineering to getting the core parts of the hardware working (motherboard…

The Dragonfly is indeed a nice, albeit pricey, Chromebook. Great to have what looks like a comparable machine for much less.

Re: The Framework Laptop Chromebook Edition

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Post by Laaas »

asdfk-12 wrote: post #36
nrp wrote: post #2

I'm happy to answer questions anyone has on this product!

Would an ARM-based mainboard variant be a possibility down the line?

It is truly unfortunate that an ARM-based variant isn't available.

When you don't care about single-core performance and compatibility, there really isn't much reason to use x86 at all. For me personally, my priority is by far battery-life (and LTE support is a nice bonus).

I'm refraining from using Framework until they get an ARM device out to replace my current ARM chromebook (Acer Chromebook Spin 513, my NixOS configuration: https://github.com/L-as/NixOS-lazor)

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