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Evaluation of TikTok vs. Instagram Reels

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Re: Evaluation of TikTok vs. Instagram Reels

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Instagram is not dying. There is no other app in the world with the same reach and installation percentage among young people. Instagram is losing at usage time sure, but I would wager that 95% of young people in first world countries have an Instagram profile and this is not. Its almost a necessity.

Re: Evaluation of TikTok vs. Instagram Reels

#152

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Pretty much every generation makes the same mistake you're making right now by writing off whatever the younger generation is focusing their time on. You can find quotes from 1000 years ago with the same exact sentiment as your comment. Every single time they were wrong.

Yeah, scrolling photos of big butts, breasts and yachts plus a lot of ads it's really pushing forward society as a whole, is hard to believe the staggering similarity of when books became mainstream and old people worried the young would become dumber given they wouldn't have to memorize.

There's plenty of nonsense books available too. People made the same argument about video games when I was a child. Over the last 100 years we've been worried about TV shows, movies, video games, and rock music being a negative influence. Just because you think something is dumb doesn't invalidate it for everyone else.

Re: Evaluation of TikTok vs. Instagram Reels

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Stop asking Gen Z for anything. Fuck me, I don't even know what a Gen Z is. Sounds like a CPU for all I care. A cheap one too. Instagram is dying ? No, I am dying. Lend a helping hand. Buy me an ice-cream. People are cognitive screwed from all this socalled social network bullshit that turns friends, family and idols into a circus of self-proclaimed everything. Kylie Jenner ? Really ? I can almost taste the sugary fe…

When I was a teenager we had to make up our own reality. There were distinct gangs. The metal listeners, the rap listeners, the disco people, and so on. We were forced to, for stimuli were scarce. One new record could be passed along dozens of people eager for the new. Now speak to any teenager, they are all the same. Bees of a single hive mind.

> Now speak to any teenager, they are all the same. Bees of a single hive mind.

I don't know what teenagers you're speaking to but at least my nieces and nephews are certainly not the same. If anything, what's changed is its now acceptable to be part of more of these groups than it was before.

Re: Evaluation of TikTok vs. Instagram Reels

#154

I think Meta really screwed up by not creating a stand-alone Reels app and instead trying to integrate it with Instagram. As someone who doesn't really like Meta as a company, I would admittedly be interested in trying out a totally new video-centric app released by them. But instead all they did was make instagram a little worse. I mean they already had instagram videos, shoe-horning a fifth tab at the bottom isn't…

It's their Google+ moment (as a reminder, Google+ destroyed Buzz, Reader, and heavily damaged Talk, YouTube and generally Google's reputation; I liked it, but it went too far on so many things). Or dare I remember when every app was integrating a "story" feature to compete with Snap ? Their are probably other examples of this.

Re: Evaluation of TikTok vs. Instagram Reels

#155

Stop asking Gen Z for anything. Fuck me, I don't even know what a Gen Z is. Sounds like a CPU for all I care. A cheap one too. Instagram is dying ? No, I am dying. Lend a helping hand. Buy me an ice-cream. People are cognitive screwed from all this socalled social network bullshit that turns friends, family and idols into a circus of self-proclaimed everything. Kylie Jenner ? Really ? I can almost taste the sugary fe…

Pretty much every generation makes the same mistake you're making right now by writing off whatever the younger generation is focusing their time on. You can find quotes from 1000 years ago with the same exact sentiment as your comment. Every single time they were wrong.

Every single time they were wrong.

[Evidence required]

Re: Evaluation of TikTok vs. Instagram Reels

#156

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, scrolling photos of big butts, breasts and yachts plus a lot of ads it's really pushing forward society as a whole, is hard to believe the staggering similarity of when books became mainstream and old people worried the young would become dumber given they wouldn't have to memorize.

There's plenty of nonsense books available too. People made the same argument about video games when I was a child. Over the last 100 years we've been worried about TV shows, movies, video games, and rock music being a negative influence. Just because you think something is dumb doesn't invalidate it for everyone else.

The popularity ratio of garbage books vs non-garbage is nowhere even close to the equivalent ratio on social media, where instantaneous feedback loops of dopamine shots are pushing the balance in favor of the worst kind of content, I admit TV already did some of that but social media platforms are on a whole new level.

And there has been a drop in the average IQ of the world in recent decades, and is directly related to TV and the other things you mentioned, so it's clear that it does have consequences and some of it is indeed a negative influence, source: https://www.swnewsmedia.com/article_8317aad9-876e-5c1e-804a-...

Re: Evaluation of TikTok vs. Instagram Reels

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I like that they asked actual users, and provided actual examples; it's something I've always felt off about Instagram's Reels vs TikTok. However the takeaway is that your TikTok feed is curated by hand by artisan robots vs Instagram is curated by lizards who only care about data. Both companies are completely data driven with some amazing engineers; but why is the Reels product boring, while TikTok is engaging has t…

As a millennial I can tell you exactly why TikTok is better: 1. The Reels algorithm is simplistic as fuck. I was scrolling through Instagram recently and a three reel “ad” came up. I accidentally tapped on the center one and it turned out to be a pimple popping video. Now every reel I see is that. No exceptions. I am sure if I actually watched more Reels I would get better content but that’s work. 2. Reels are often…

> I don’t think you can get those numbers with Reels.

Can you even watch a reel without an account? Because I know I can't watch stories and after clicking one or two pictures my IP is blocked entirely from Instagram for x hours.

I don't have this problem if someone sends me a TikTok link.

Re: Evaluation of TikTok vs. Instagram Reels

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People ask the young generation because they are the biggest indicator as to where things are heading. Consider how many people will read your answer. How much attention of HN-audience-type-people did you just send down the drain for the righteous feeling of ranting off-topic?

> the young generation ... are the biggest indicator as to where things are heading. They sure can be. But young people around me in the early 2000s were into rap-metal, buying ringtones, and using ICQ or IM. These obviously were not great indicators of what would happen in the near future.

Hey, ICQ was great.

Re: Evaluation of TikTok vs. Instagram Reels

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Yeah, what happened to Vine? I haven't heard that name for quite some time.

Twitter just turned it off one day a few years ago. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

It actually blows my mind how Twitter decided to kill Vine when it was very clear that they had an amazing opportunity. Vine was still very popular when they axed it especially considering how many of the popular TikTok and YouTube creators today were originally big on Vine.

Re: Evaluation of TikTok vs. Instagram Reels

#160

Stop asking Gen Z for anything. Fuck me, I don't even know what a Gen Z is. Sounds like a CPU for all I care. A cheap one too. Instagram is dying ? No, I am dying. Lend a helping hand. Buy me an ice-cream. People are cognitive screwed from all this socalled social network bullshit that turns friends, family and idols into a circus of self-proclaimed everything. Kylie Jenner ? Really ? I can almost taste the sugary fe…

I do wonder sometimes if social media is the games and rock music of our generation. Mind you, there's lots of legitimate criticism to throw at social media and I wouldn't mind the whole apparatus burning down either, but it's also the one thing a lot of people born in the late 20th century agree to hate on.

Maybe it’s the radio and cinema of our generation.

Both were used in their time to get totalitarian governments into power and many millions died.

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