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Re: Cheap junk flooding Amazon has brand names like MOFFBUZW

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Post by spaceman_2020 »

Nextgrid wrote: post #26
spaceman_2020 wrote: post #6

Everyone who does anything online should be required to hang out on some black hat internet forums and marketplaces. It really opens up your eyes to the sheer size of the fake account and bot traffic, market. It makes you skeptical of everything you see online. You can buy verified Twitter accounts, blue check mark accounts, Facebook ad accounts, Google AdSense/AdWords accounts, Amazon accounts, and more bot traffic…

> I wonder what the internet would really look like if there was no bot traffic, fake clicks, and fake accounts. In an economy where the only thing that matters is actual money there wouldn't be any bots - after all I don't see bots queuing up to buy stuff. This is a problem the bullshit advertising and "growth & engagement" industry brought on themselves. If you pay people to click on stuff, they're gonna click it,…

Bots don't buy stuff, but bots can push human persuasion triggers. Something with 10,000 positive reviews on Amazon feels like a much better buy than something with 2 reviews.

Re: Cheap junk flooding Amazon has brand names like MOFFBUZW

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Post by derefr »

elliekelly wrote: post #120
eslaught wrote: post #110

Is it correct to say that when you get something "shipped and sold by Amazon.com", it really comes from them? It's the "fulfilled by Amazon" (the infamous FBA) that you need to watch out for. It's a bit screwy, but you can filter by seller by clicking into a specific product category, and then selecting Amazon.com in the bar on the left. Then all the items should be "shipped and sold by Amazon.com". But I've been sor…

I’m actually not sure that’s a safe assumption. I could be wrong but I believe Amazon co-mingles products of the same SKU. So if Amazon is selling a book and other sellers have listed the same item as “new” and sent it to Amazon’s warehouse I don’t believe there is any distinction between the two at the warehouse. So the stock picker might grab Amazon’s (presumably authentic) item from the bin when they pack your ord…

Not same SKU — same ASIN. I believe that brands that sell through Amazon (not FBA sellers), who are worried about comingled inventory, can get their official product moved over to a new ASIN, leaving the fakes behind in the old ASIN bin.

Re: Cheap junk flooding Amazon has brand names like MOFFBUZW

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Post by alangibson »

vineyardmike wrote: post #138
alangibson wrote: post #112

I wonder if theres a business idea in here. Set up a site that looks better than Amazon (not hard) and only list reputable listings on Amazon. Collect affiliate revenue. Basically just filter out the crap and profit

The issue is that the listing URLs are shifty and reference different things over time, and the listings can be hijacked.

A URL is tied to an ASIN, so those don't change.

But the listing can get hijacked. There's an opportunity for improvement. Take down a listing when creative suddenly changes, for example.

Re: Cheap junk flooding Amazon has brand names like MOFFBUZW

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Post by gunapologist99 »

nus07 wrote: post #124
protastus wrote: post #105

I no longer have the patience to navigate Amazon's terrible search results and have lost trust in the quality of their inventory. Nowadays I only order from Amazon if the order is a time critical item that only they can deliver on time for a reasonable price. That's less than 5% of my purchases in dollar amount. I've been a customer since 1997. Amazon has impressed me with their ability to play the long game, and I d…

I wonder if Amazon has reached a point where they have eliminated all competition at least at a scale to no longer worry about this especially since their only competitor Walmart has similar cheap stuff that will require a drive to the store. And targeting volume based sale where a lot of Americans especially in rural or suburban areas don't really care about the quality-read Walmart crowd. Also targeting other count…

> a lot of Americans especially in rural or suburban areas don't really care about the quality-read Walmart crowd

Please don't insinuate that rural or suburban Americans are somehow "less than" or don't care about quality. There are price-sensitive people everywhere.

Re: Cheap junk flooding Amazon has brand names like MOFFBUZW

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Post by MerelyMortal »

samstave wrote: post #107
callahad wrote: post #20

The New York Times did some decent reporting into the pseudo-brands which comes closer to answering the question in the title: having a registered trademark unlocks a lot of on-platform seller tools (predictive analytics, early review program, etc.), and the easiest path to a trademark is to have an utterly unique, nonsense name. Some Chinese municipalities were also offering cash incentives for citizens who obtained…

There was an amazing radio piece a while back about an outfit in NYC of a guy who had a very lucrative Aamazon copy-cat service: it was run by a family of Hassidic(sp?) Jews in (brooklyn?) -- and what they did was have a bunch of them scour Amazon for top rated items - then have their connections do quick knock-off and sell them. it was a fascinating story... Ill see if I can find it. They were on the early side of t…

I'm not sure what the family's religion has to do with anything, but I was curious about the spelling and put it in my search bar and it's spelled, 'Hasidic'.

Re: Cheap junk flooding Amazon has brand names like MOFFBUZW

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Post by dmix »

protastus wrote: post #105

I no longer have the patience to navigate Amazon's terrible search results and have lost trust in the quality of their inventory. Nowadays I only order from Amazon if the order is a time critical item that only they can deliver on time for a reasonable price. That's less than 5% of my purchases in dollar amount. I've been a customer since 1997. Amazon has impressed me with their ability to play the long game, and I d…

> Nowadays I only order from Amazon if the order is a time critical item that only they can deliver on time for a reasonable price. That's less than 5% of my purchases in dollar amount.

Funny that’s about 50% of my purchases because I’m terribly impatient and don’t (often) have a car so it’s way easier than going to the store and Canadas e-commerce options aren’t nearly as good as the US.

Re: Cheap junk flooding Amazon has brand names like MOFFBUZW

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Post by scrlk »

I wish there was some way to force the "sold by Amazon" filter to be on all the time; I think that would resolve most of the issues I have with browsing on Amazon.

There's still the inventory co-mingling issue that people have mentioned in other comments. Solving this would mean I'd start to consider using Amazon more frequently.

Re: Cheap junk flooding Amazon has brand names like MOFFBUZW

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Post by Retric »

Phrodo_00 wrote: post #141
bmitc wrote: post #123

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I too have stopped buying on Amazon. I did so a while back after being concerned about counterfeits, safety issues, etc. I had this talk with my wife not too long ago about a mirror she ordered from Amazon, clearly made in China by a no-brand manufacturer. We discussed about how, yes, it looks nice, but we have no idea what quality of glass they used. So if it falls and shatters, it could be very dangerous. It also c…

This doesn't sound like an Amazon issue though, but an issue with that specific product. You're the one who chose to purchase it. You would likely have the same experience with that product in other marketplaces like EBay, Walmart or Alibaba.

Walmart stores actually do very carful inventory control, and carefully manages the products it sells. The standard may be lower than you expect, but they are real.

Walmart marketplace is 3rd party sellers, but Walmart doesn’t commingle inventory so it doesn’t infect the rest of their products.

Re: Cheap junk flooding Amazon has brand names like MOFFBUZW

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Post by thaumasiotes »

> want to get in touch with DOTTAVR?

> well, they're on Amazon... surely they are a legit company and Amazon is covering their bases... good luck!

>> Business Address:

>> longhuaqulonghuajiadaojinglongshequLONGHUANYILU jiruizongheyuanWULONGDASHA Bdong502

>> Shenzhenshi

>> Guangdongsheng

>> 518110

>> CN

This is the second time I've seen someone complain about "obviously" illegitimate business information that appears to be the vendor's own home address. I don't see how they could be more open or informative than that. Want to get in touch with them? Send a letter to that address; they'll see it.

Re: Cheap junk flooding Amazon has brand names like MOFFBUZW

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Post by mcphage »

Phrodo_00 wrote: post #141
bmitc wrote: post #123

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I too have stopped buying on Amazon. I did so a while back after being concerned about counterfeits, safety issues, etc. I had this talk with my wife not too long ago about a mirror she ordered from Amazon, clearly made in China by a no-brand manufacturer. We discussed about how, yes, it looks nice, but we have no idea what quality of glass they used. So if it falls and shatters, it could be very dangerous. It also c…

This doesn't sound like an Amazon issue though, but an issue with that specific product. You're the one who chose to purchase it. You would likely have the same experience with that product in other marketplaces like EBay, Walmart or Alibaba.

> You would likely have the same experience with that product in other marketplaces

Other marketplaces don’t put up with the same volume of crap being listed as Amazon.

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