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Re: Meta Accounts: A New Login for VR

#151
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> Your “Friends” will now become “Followers,” similar to Instagram’s existing model. Don't see how this makes sense for VR, where you probably want to hang out with your friends and play games. Followers?

On the contrary! VR takes "following" to the next level. An abstraction that suddenly becomes much more concrete and literal. It is beautiful. At last it becomes truly creepy and not just vaguely concerning. You don't need to be in the street to be followed anymore, you can now stay at home for this. (please don't take my comment seriously, I just wanted to share a though that was very entertaining to me)

Jesus...

Actually now I can imagine the VR version of Twitch. A bit creepier I think.

Re: Meta Accounts: A New Login for VR

#152
post #141

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, zip code/geo-location plus a few other points of personal data are often enough to identify an individual. Then tie that to a browser fingerprint and you can tie together all their "anonymous" screen names.

I read recently (or heard in a podcast; can't find the source lamentably) that almost all people can be uniquely identified by the top three locations they spend most time at.

I would expect most people spend most of their time at home and at work, so that doesn't really surprise me.

Re: Meta Accounts: A New Login for VR

#153
post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Cost of doing business? Is GDPR protecting me as an American from Facebook shadow profiling me? How significant are GDPR fines?

In theory 4% from yearly revenue (not earnings, revenue), in practice I haven’t seen it being applied.

Here you go. Click your country's flag to see your results https://www.enforcementtracker.com (if you're European, that is).

Re: Meta Accounts: A New Login for VR

#155

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Oh get over it, your hate for FB is noted. The title is accurate, the information is news, and IMO HN users are smart enough to know what a PR release is when they read it. What are you worried about? That folks will walk this earth thinking you have to use a Meta account instead of a Facebook account to log into your VR app?

The post was posted by a (edit: recently ex-) VP at Facebook, and the posted title, while strictly accurate, doesn't mention that there's a brand new account type that you need to have. I read this at first as "I can finally buy a VR headset and use it as regular hardware", not "FB is still going to track my usage, just under their new name". "Introducing Meta Accounts: A New Login for VR" is the actual title, and sh…

FB/Meta tracking your usage isn't even discussed in the article, and nothing about not tracking is suggested at all in the title.

This just seems like an excuse to rant about disliking Facebook.

Re: Meta Accounts: A New Login for VR

#156
post #132

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's a bit pedantic, but Facebook does not sell your personal data. They use it to target advertising. And at this point, every large tech company does the same thing. Apple, Amazon, Google, Microsoft. They all make significant revenue from advertising and they all use data they collect from you to target ads. So, not that targeted advertising is so great, but it's looking like pretty much any hardware device from bi…

> It's a bit pedantic, but Facebook does not sell your personal data. They use it to target advertising. But they also leak personal data. A lot. At this point, I'm willing to believe that the other adtech-corporations are more likely to be interested and capable in maintaining your data out of the prying eyes (of competing adtech-corporations).

> But they also leak personal data. A lot.

Some examples please. In recent memory I can only think of examples where services violated TOS (which I'm not sure how FB could prevent) or got authorization from the end user (as in the Cambridge Analytica case).

Any examples of them leaking data as a result of their own processes?

Re: Meta Accounts: A New Login for VR

#157

Ah cool, they're going to use your Oculus account to open a Meta account for you. How convenient.

It's not automatic, you have to do it manually. If you don't the device won't work anymore. > After January 1, 2023, you’ll need to set up a Meta account to continue using your VR device. When you update your Oculus account to a Meta account, the Supplemental Meta Platforms Technologies Terms of Service and Supplemental Meta Platforms Technologies Privacy Policy will apply to you.

I’m really hoping the open source implementations can catch up. As it stands, I’ve sidelined my VR headset until I can get it working without the Oculus software at all. Privacy is just too important for me - why would I want to visit a virtual world just to have all of my activity stalked by Meta of all companies.

Re: Meta Accounts: A New Login for VR

#158
Only Mark Zuckerberg could possibly announce with a straight face (without apologizing for having made a Facebook login mandatory previously) this, as if he's doing us a favor. The man is a narcissist and megalomaniac

Re: Meta Accounts: A New Login for VR

#159
post #58

You'll still need to add an email address, your name, DOB, a phone number, and payment info. To retain your privacy, you can easily create an email alias and put in a fake name and DOB. A paid Twilio number should work. A privacy.com (or similar service) should also work.

A paid twilio number doesn't work.

Really? It's worked for me on services that don't allow virtual numbers. If that's no longer the case I'm open to alternative solutions.

Re: Meta Accounts: A New Login for VR

#160
post #93
post #71

@dang This is a heavily editorialized bait-and-switch title, posted by a user who is a VP at Facebook. That doesn't seem above board.

I am actually no longer working for Meta. I do think the title reflects the news and is factually correct. But happy for @dang to change it back as it’s not exactly the title of the article

>I do think the title reflects the news and is factually correct.

This is one of those times where one is only "technically" correct thanks to weasel-y phrasing.

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