Buy an EPSON. Apart from the fact they have separate ink cartridges for each colour, they also don't act like satan.
They don't let you change the waste ink pads. Once that counter is up, either into the trash or to a service center.
Tell HN: Brother printers now locking out non-OEM paraphernalia
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#152I can't wrap my head around how the printer market has turned into this absolutely dispicable, foul state that it is in right now. Decades of innovation that have been invested, not to make a better product, but mostly on how to extract more and more money from their victims, I mean "customers". I would like to own a printer again, but for printing something like once a month, I just can't financially justify spendin…
> at the whim of the manufacturer
I've seen a clip on the Internet where printer rolls a customer satisfaction survey during printing on a little screen panel locking its features away.
I'm afraid that once my Samsung laser printer will be broken beyond any repair I won't have any other choice than to get the one of the newest anti-customer devices that will maneuver me into "supplies as a service" scenario.
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#153I've got a Brother laser printer that's probably old enough to vote now. It's impressive that it's lasted this long, but the whole business model of printing is so rotten I still wonder how much I want it around when the toners have run completely dry. On top of the installation being a mess. I've seen that companies like Brother make dedicated shipping label printers, and I guess that's what I realistically would us…
Same for me. I think I was introduced to Brother printers in 2006, and bought my first then. That HL-2140 is still kicking, although it doesn't do much nowadays (a digital office, as it turns out, needs paper hard copies quite infrequently!)
A MFC I bought a couple years later is still going strong.
Re: Tell HN: Brother printers now locking out non-OEM paraphernalia
#154My pretty old DCP-L2540DW has a new firmware update:
06/16/2022 Main: V / Sub: 1.06 Improvement to help with the performance of the machine.
I think I'll pass.
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#155Earlier quoted context omitted.
If Apple made third party cables not work or work poorly it would be the same. But now they can't do that even if they wanted to. I would be happy to have to throw out ink cartridges I currently use due to a law change if it meant that forever onwards I knew I could buy third party ink and use it without issues. This would also have the effect of lowering OEM ink prices because they would have to compete. Free market…
> If Apple made third party cables not work or work poorly it would be the same. Indeed, if the situation were different, it would be the same as this one, but it’s not.
Are you in favor of printers with proprietary ink or phones with proprietary cables which can be sold at exorbitant margins or what about toasters with proprietary bread? I think this is bad myself, but you are free to differ.
Re: Tell HN: Brother printers now locking out non-OEM paraphernalia
#156It's like if Catbert moved to Evil Printing Solutions from Evil Human Resources.
Re: Tell HN: Brother printers now locking out non-OEM paraphernalia
#157I can't wrap my head around how the printer market has turned into this absolutely dispicable, foul state that it is in right now. Decades of innovation that have been invested, not to make a better product, but mostly on how to extract more and more money from their victims, I mean "customers". I would like to own a printer again, but for printing something like once a month, I just can't financially justify spendin…
I think it boils down to companies finding legal ways of artificially lowering the baseline price signal that they send into highly price-sensitive markets. Similar phenomena in this sense include phone/DSL/cable plans that don't include various fees in the advertised price, the "sticker price" of a new car, smart TVs not mentioning that they're going to show you ads, and so on.
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#158Why hasn’t the printer industry not been disrupted by a company that isn’t hell-bent on fucking over their customers?
Because if a company like that starts to emerge they'll be bought out by a larger company. At which point everyone around here will congratulate them on their "exit".
I often feel like this is a wonderful business plan, then!
Find an industry monopolized, disrupt it just enough to catch the attention of the incumbent, and exit.
I often think I should start an infant formula company and sell to Abbott.
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#159Soon they'll have a hidden 5G Internet connection that sends all printed material to the manufacturer, who will then sell the data to advertisers and the state. Are there still any new printers (postscript, laser) that are reasonable? Black and white printing is sufficient.
Or use it themselves. They can just print little tailored ads while you're printing based on your print history. Not too far out of the question the more i think about it. Remember when we used to print directions and they were often littered with ads intermingled with the steps.
I remember business folks throwing out/"recycling" several pages of scam ads faxed to them overnight, every morning. It's not the same thing but it's the same result.
Re: Tell HN: Brother printers now locking out non-OEM paraphernalia
#160I can't wrap my head around how the printer market has turned into this absolutely dispicable, foul state that it is in right now. Decades of innovation that have been invested, not to make a better product, but mostly on how to extract more and more money from their victims, I mean "customers". I would like to own a printer again, but for printing something like once a month, I just can't financially justify spendin…
> I would like to own a printer again, but for printing something like once a month, I just can't financially justify spending several hundred bucks on a device For printing something like once a month, it is even harder to justify wasting space by putting a printer. Printers should be put around in form of vending machines which would let you you insert a USB stick, drop some pennies and print the PDFs.
There's no way I'd ever use put that USB stick in one of my computers again.