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Re: TITO: Electric Argentine car

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Post by pipeline_peak »

gzalo wrote: post #7

As an Argentinean, we can get it for around USD 9.5k, but it lacks many basic features. It can't even go faster than 40 miles per hour / 65 km/h, so it can't really drive on freeways. It doesn't even have a trunk, so not really useful for groceries either (see https://youtu.be/B5_A2F_cDNI?t=139 ) No airbags either, but at those speeds it's probably not as useful (at least that's what they imply in its FAQs). Remember…

> No airbags either, but at those speeds it's probably not as useful

Unless someone crashes into one of these mini fridges.

Re: TITO: Electric Argentine car

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Post by pipeline_peak »

People are scratching their heads wondering how China will make its way into the automotive industry. A lot of people are too afraid to buy cars from them.

Well one way appears to be rebadging no name vehicles to support pseudo philanthropic efforts.

To anyone this reads as “finally automotive independence for the developing world”, think again.

Re: TITO: Electric Argentine car

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Post by standardUser »

throwaway0a5e wrote: post #144
standardUser wrote: post #117

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The Nissan Leaf is the most underrated car in the world. It's perfectly suitable for a vast majority of the trips Americans make by car and it's ridiculously economical (especially if purchased used). I don't think there are any rational reasons why it's not the most popular car in America.

>The Nissan Leaf is the most underrated car in the world. It's perfectly suitable for a vast majority of the trips Americans make by car and it's ridiculously economical (especially if purchased used). >I don't think there are any rational reasons why it's not the most popular car in America. It's still a subcompact. For the hordes and hordes of people who need a tad more utility out of a vehicle it just doesn't work…

A lot of families have two cars and it becomes pretty difficult to explain why one isn't electric when the Leaf is an option and the second car will certainly be bigger.

"If it was they wouldn't be so cheap." If demand surged, Nissan would make more (barring any specific supply chain constraints). Mass producing cars at competitive prices is Nissan's core competency.

"ill suited to what most people want in a car." This is the actual problem in my eyes. Americans especially have a lot of frivolous ideas about what a car is supposed to be.

Re: TITO: Electric Argentine car

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Post by kragen »

xeromal wrote: post #95
kragen wrote: post #93

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They are, but typically wages are paid after working, rather than beforehand. So paying wages monthly rather than, for example, twice a month, amounts to an interest-free loan of two weeks' worth of wages by the employee to their employer, which to me seems unjust. (Thus the Biblical injunction to pay your workers before their sweat has dried.) This interest-free loan is particularly galling when we're experiencing 6…

Who gets paid before working? I haven't seen that at least here in the states I've worked in the US. Usually you work to the pay period and receive the prorated amount of days you worked. Sometimes you even have to work for two pay periods which can equate to misery if you haven't saved up. lol. Edit: I reread your comment and understand now! Sorry about that.

Employees in good bargaining positions frequently receive signing bonuses, so they do get paid before working. Those aren't the people taking minimum-wage jobs.

Re: TITO: Electric Argentine car

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Post by kragen »

notch656a wrote: post #126
kragen wrote: post #125

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You can certainly hide a container, but you can't hide a container port , much less a non-submarine ship in the open ocean, which is what your earlier comment suggested. Argentina definitely does not have customs officials as honest as those in the US, though perhaps they are more sophisticated. Traveling via container is a thing I've contemplated doing myself, if only I had the budget.

Via container? That is indeed an unusual desire for someone with options.

I'm an unusual guy.

Re: TITO: Electric Argentine car

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Post by yeahsure »

kragen wrote: post #81
RussianCow wrote: post #59

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They meant monthly, though it's not quite that low. According to Reuters[0], the national minimum wage as of this month is 45,540 (around 368 USD), and it will be increased again in August. [0]: https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/argentina-accelerates...

Reuters is using the fraudulent official exchange rate, not the real exchange rate, which is currently $216-$220 per US$. So if you take your monthly minimum-wage salary and convert it into dollars you will get about US$200, not US$368. You need government authorization to buy (a small amount of) dollars at the official rate, and there's a government policy to reserve dollars for rich people, so if you're working a m…

I live in Argentina and this is correct. The (fake) official exchange rate is used by the government and media to paint a better picture of the terrible situation that we're in, it should not be used nor trusted anywhere to make any calculations on the cost of living, inflation, salaries nor anything else.

Re: TITO: Electric Argentine car

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Post by kragen »

yeahsure wrote: post #157
kragen wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Reuters is using the fraudulent official exchange rate, not the real exchange rate, which is currently $216-$220 per US$. So if you take your monthly minimum-wage salary and convert it into dollars you will get about US$200, not US$368. You need government authorization to buy (a small amount of) dollars at the official rate, and there's a government policy to reserve dollars for rich people, so if you're working a m…

I live in Argentina and this is correct. The (fake) official exchange rate is used by the government and media to paint a better picture of the terrible situation that we're in, it should not be used nor trusted anywhere to make any calculations on the cost of living, inflation, salaries nor anything else.

I wonder why Reuters made this error—pure ignorance, or are they trying to curry favor with Fernández?

Re: TITO: Electric Argentine car

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Post by kragen »

j_mo wrote: post #143
mynameisvlad wrote: post #98

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Has anyone actually verified it's the same car? They only mildly resemble eachother IMO. That said, Coradir's site seems to be a lot of rebranded gadgets so it wouldn't surprise me, but I haven't seen any actual proof of this, just speculation based on cars looking similar.

https://ar.motor1.com/news/480616/tito-probo-en-potrero-de-l... > The only official image published by Coradir Automotores shows the Tito with the original Today Sunshine M1 grille Looks like they're importing them but with their own styling changes, and originally posted an unmodified Sunshine M1 on their website.

This is absolutely standard business practice here, as I explained in https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31829966.
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