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Federal Reserve raises rates by 0.75%

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Re: Federal Reserve raises rates by 0.75%

#151

The fed is aggressively raising rates as the economy goes into recession. The last time something similar to this happened was in 1980. A very bad unusual situation, but on the other hand, the worst may be over. I think Google, Microsoft, Facebook, Amazon, and other large cap tech stocks are good buys at these levels and are more immune to macro factors (compared to other sectors ) and can hedge inflation by raising…

Google and FB rely on ads. Less consumer demand, less spending on ads.

Re: Federal Reserve raises rates by 0.75%

#152
post #105

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please show where trickle down economics ever worked, anywhere.

An iPhone user in rural India surfing the open internet on $1 / month LTE mobile networks is absolutely an example of Trickle down economics working. Every single of the thousands of innovation that goes into an iPhone was subsidized by rich venture capitalists and rich early adopters who were willing to plonk large sums of money to a 'gadget' that only showed promises of work. It wasn't because the Indian Government…

Were trickle down economic principles followed by American politicians to benefit rural Indians?

I don’t think finding a silver lining in the end results of a process counts as it succeeding.

Re: Federal Reserve raises rates by 0.75%

#153

The fed is aggressively raising rates as the economy goes into recession. The last time something similar to this happened was in 1980. A very bad unusual situation, but on the other hand, the worst may be over. I think Google, Microsoft, Facebook, Amazon, and other large cap tech stocks are good buys at these levels and are more immune to macro factors (compared to other sectors ) and can hedge inflation by raising…

The rate was like 10% when they started raising in the 80s. The situation now is different, and the 'crisis' at hand is the current economy's addiction to rates of zero for so long. Entirely self-inflicted by the FED.

Re: Federal Reserve raises rates by 0.75%

#154
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Isn't that the same thing?

Using percentages rather than basis points can be ambiguous. E.g. "1% increase from a 1% rate". Does this mean 1.01% (relative increase) or 2% (absolute increase)?

Fair enough, I've never heard rate increases discussed in relative terms. The context matters in the case.

Re: Federal Reserve raises rates by 0.75%

#155

You can argue either side to this, and make a good case. My personal preference is to trigger a recession and reduce inflation. The easy cop-out solution is to say a "big f*ck off" to pensioners, lower middle class, and poor people and let inflation soar, but I believe that long term this would be more destructive to the general economy. Better take the long term view here and not kick the can down the street.

Here's another perspective to this. An induced recession at a time when most people and businesses are recovering from historic losses that came about in the pandemic, is the worst. In a recession, spending from the top 10% of the population slows down, which in turn stops the trickle down economics, and hits the lower 90% of the society the hardest. And when that happens after a 2 year long period where they were al…

> when most people and businesses are recovering from historic losses

That's the thing. Most people and businesses did not have historic losses, outside of a few market segments. People and businesses are flush with cash, pumping up demand/inflation.

Re: Federal Reserve raises rates by 0.75%

#156

You can argue either side to this, and make a good case. My personal preference is to trigger a recession and reduce inflation. The easy cop-out solution is to say a "big f*ck off" to pensioners, lower middle class, and poor people and let inflation soar, but I believe that long term this would be more destructive to the general economy. Better take the long term view here and not kick the can down the street.

takes guts to do this and it was needed. Problem is that it will expose that most of the US economy is a sham that needed 0% interest rates to even fake growth. our "leaders" have been kicking the can down the road for a long time. US economy used to grow even with very high interest rates, now even a slight increase puts us into a recession.

Re: Federal Reserve raises rates by 0.75%

#157
post #106

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What's the good play here? Cause a recession or price those lower middle class out of being able to afford the cost of living? Typically they aren't the ones with the best negotiating power.

Raising taxes to take money out of the system. With that you have control over who the pain hits. Some specific areas that are getting hit hard like housing have specific problems that need to be fixed, like zoning.

But you can't ask billionaires to pay more!

Re: Federal Reserve raises rates by 0.75%

#158
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post #9

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no one here buys the 'putin price hike' excuse

Anyone honest can agree that most of the increase was return to normal. After a massive anomaly in the market. The sanctions on energy sector might be part of the blame, but most of increase was just return to normal. Just look at 2018 prices.

The years leading up to Covid were an extreme bull market — increasing at a rate that high again is not a return to “normal”, it’s a return to a historically very high growth rate

Re: Federal Reserve raises rates by 0.75%

#159
post #115

Ridiculous that the Fed doesn't just raise 200bp and be done. They could have done this six months ago (call it 250bp then) if they truly believe that the level of interest rates will have a material effect on the inflation rate. The piece meal, drip drip increases just raises uncertainty for consumers and businesses while ensuring they are "behind the curve"

The piecemeal approach ensures they avoid massive shocks and over-correction. The cure should not be worse than the disease.

that happened.

Re: Federal Reserve raises rates by 0.75%

#160

I know this may sound petty and the wording is regularly found even in the best editorial offices, but the engineer in me resists every time: the correct wording should be "by 0.75%-points" instead of "by 0.75%". Am I the only one who is bothered by this?

Yes. Everyone else can use context.
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