Does someone have a link about the technical details for developers that it might affect (SSO, cookies for subdomains, etc). This is just a marketing post.
Firefox rolls out Total Cookie Protection by default to all users
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Re: Firefox rolls out Total Cookie Protection by default to all users
#152Earlier quoted context omitted.
There are legit cross-domain use cases. A good example is how someone here mentioned (comment seems deleted though) account sessions being shared between Atlassian products like JIRA and BitBucket. The problem with that is domains are a poor way of representing ownership that can be trusted. If the web was rebuilt from scratch, a better approach might be to allow cookies to be shared between secure sites using the sa…
> allow cookies to be shared between secure sites using the same certificate Or maybe encrypting cookies using the site certificate, which would still allow cookies to be shared with domains having a different certificate, but the server needs the correct key for decryption.
Re: Firefox rolls out Total Cookie Protection by default to all users
#153Is this better or worse than Safari's "Prevent cross-site tracking" feature? https://support.apple.com/guide/safari/prevent-cross-site-tr... It appears Safari is just blocking the cookies, while Firefox is isolating the cookies. I guess Safari has to keep track of who to block while Firefox just isolates everybody. Are there other benefits to the Firefox approach? Frankly, I have a hard time understanding why this Co…
Firefox is playing catch-up with this feature. The announcement says "...making Firefox the most private and secure major browser available across Windows and Mac." Note the part that I've emphasized.
Re: Firefox rolls out Total Cookie Protection by default to all users
#154Why weren't separate cookie jars the default in the first place? I know that browsers other than Firefox have no real incentive to protect your privacy, but I'm wondering why cookies were designed to be shared among different pages in general
There are legit cross-domain use cases. A good example is how someone here mentioned (comment seems deleted though) account sessions being shared between Atlassian products like JIRA and BitBucket. The problem with that is domains are a poor way of representing ownership that can be trusted. If the web was rebuilt from scratch, a better approach might be to allow cookies to be shared between secure sites using the sa…
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#155In fact I've already encountered one site that gave me a popup telling me to enable third party cookies. It was one of those dodgy sites that scrapes and copies Stack Overflow content and the JavaScript that enabled it was very clunky - but it worked. I'm surprised there aren't more websites already doing something similar.
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Surprised it's even that high, I tried to switch to Firefox the other month for privacy but gave up because it crashed on me it-least once a day. Edit: thanks for the downvotes, I would have preferred if it worked but it didn't. I tried basic troubleshooting, disabling extensions etc. but didn't find it usable on macOs Monterey, think it doesn't play well with youtube.
I have used Firefox for 7 years and never had it crash once.
Re: Firefox rolls out Total Cookie Protection by default to all users
#157Why weren't separate cookie jars the default in the first place? I know that browsers other than Firefox have no real incentive to protect your privacy, but I'm wondering why cookies were designed to be shared among different pages in general
There are legit cross-domain use cases. A good example is how someone here mentioned (comment seems deleted though) account sessions being shared between Atlassian products like JIRA and BitBucket. The problem with that is domains are a poor way of representing ownership that can be trusted. If the web was rebuilt from scratch, a better approach might be to allow cookies to be shared between secure sites using the sa…
Domains that want to collaborate together can still do so.
Re: Firefox rolls out Total Cookie Protection by default to all users
#158Earlier quoted context omitted.
There are legit cross-domain use cases. A good example is how someone here mentioned (comment seems deleted though) account sessions being shared between Atlassian products like JIRA and BitBucket. The problem with that is domains are a poor way of representing ownership that can be trusted. If the web was rebuilt from scratch, a better approach might be to allow cookies to be shared between secure sites using the sa…
There’s no technical reason why this has to be hard. If jira was at jira.atlassian.com and bitbucket was bitbucket.atlassian.com, they would have the same origin, plus they would make the relationship between them visible to any moderately savvy user. It’s only complicated because they allow their marketing dept to make it complicated.
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#159It would be nice to allow users to create "trusted tuples" to list small groups of domains that are allowed to share their cookies. For instance: Zendesk, Asana, Jira, etc. But have each tuple listed still be isolated from the other, only domains listed together in a single list could share a cookie container.
Re: Firefox rolls out Total Cookie Protection by default to all users
#160This will only further entrench the big players (google, facebook, etc) while making it impossible for new & small players to compete. All of the services the big players offer effectively make working without universal cookies trivial. For the small players though, without massive ad-supported service offerings like Gmail, Facebook (as a platform), etc, this will screw them completely. Mind you, I'm a HUGE privacy a…
Firefox really needs to implement two features: 1. Cookie Auto-Delete (see https://github.com/Cookie-AutoDelete/Cookie-AutoDelete/wiki/... ), where cookies and local data are automatically deleted some time after closing the tab. You can, of course, whitelist Websites to exclude them. 2. Firefox multi-container extension, to assign some websites (domains and subdomains) to a container by default so that you can visit…