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Re: Sunsetting Atom

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Post by joshstrange »

datalopers wrote: post #83
joshstrange wrote: post #56

I know a lot of people love vscode but are there any people who have tried something like IDEA/WebStorm/PHPStorm/etc that then went back to vscode? I had to help a developer setup deploys to a dev server from vscode the other day and I wanted to pull my hair out. I'll admit it's at least in part due to not using vscode myself but I was a heavy Sublime Text user which is very similar to vscode when it comes to how you…

https://code.visualstudio.com/docs/remote/remote-overview far better and faster than sftp

I looked into that plugin but we don't run any special daemon/server for editing on our servers (nor do we want to).

Re: Sunsetting Atom

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Post by diarrhea »

wly_cdgr wrote: post #73

Atom has been dead for years, this is just the state funeral. The situation now is: * Sublime for the Williamsburg corpo-hipsters * emacs and vim for the wizards and furries * VSCode for all the normies who just want to get on with doing their job and don't feel a need to express their identity or politics through choice of editor * WebStorm for the chads with the monster rigs to run it

Well put. There's just no reason to move off VSCode so far (for Python and friends). In a couple weeks' time, I'll be working with C# in Visual Studio. It has me excited since I've heard many good things about Microsoft developer tooling, of which VS is a huge tool in the box (C# as a language also seems attractive).

Re: Sunsetting Atom

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Post by oefrha »

Atom will live on in the form of Electron, one of the highest impact and most controversial technologies of the recent decade.

I still remember the day VSCode was announced, and the binary on macOS (inside ./Contents/MacOS in the app bundle) was literally named Atom.

Re: Sunsetting Atom

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Post by burlesona »

joshstrange wrote: post #56

I know a lot of people love vscode but are there any people who have tried something like IDEA/WebStorm/PHPStorm/etc that then went back to vscode? I had to help a developer setup deploys to a dev server from vscode the other day and I wanted to pull my hair out. I'll admit it's at least in part due to not using vscode myself but I was a heavy Sublime Text user which is very similar to vscode when it comes to how you…

It's just the NPM problem. The barrier to entry being low means the ecosystem is gargantuan which means there's tons of bike shedding duplication and lots and lots of abandonware. So it's good that you have tons of options, but bad that curation is needed and tailoring your environment takes a lot of work.

Re: Sunsetting Atom

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Post by rgoulter »

Atreiden wrote: post #38

Called this ~4 years ago when they were acquired by M$. But it's still really sad to see. I use it because it was trivial to CSS style it to match my Desktop. It's comfortable to me in a way that other editors thus far have not been. Are there other editors with this level of customizability? I know VSCode and Sublime support theming but from what I can tell it involves installing pre-packaged themes.

If level of customizability is your main metric:

Emacs can go from this: https://emacshints.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/spash1.png

to this: https://github.com/rougier/nano-emacs

Re: Sunsetting Atom

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Post by taude »

tediousdemise wrote: post #37
civilized wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

GitHub is owned by Microsoft, the company that invented "Embrace, Extend, Extinguish". We should be counting down the days till they sunset VS Code to focus on VS Code "Pro".

When this inevitably happens to VSCode, I'm sure we'll all flock to Sublime Text in droves (or some hip new editor on the block). Contingency planning for this could be a small but wise time investment for dependent teams. VSCode could very well go the way of the Do... Docker.

Sounds like premature optimization.

I'd actually worry if the engineers I work with couldn't pick up a new IDE/text editor, etc. pretty easily and quickly, if and when something like this happens. And I'd say the risk of it happening in the next three to five years is pretty minimal at this point.

Re: Sunsetting Atom

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Post by adolfojp »

skohan wrote: post #118
wly_cdgr wrote: post #73

Atom has been dead for years, this is just the state funeral. The situation now is: * Sublime for the Williamsburg corpo-hipsters * emacs and vim for the wizards and furries * VSCode for all the normies who just want to get on with doing their job and don't feel a need to express their identity or politics through choice of editor * WebStorm for the chads with the monster rigs to run it

So MS owns the default place where code is hosted, and the default tool people use to edit code. Neat.

Well, Microsoft has always been about developers, developers, developers...

Re: Sunsetting Atom

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Post by BaseballPhysics »

wly_cdgr wrote: post #73

Atom has been dead for years, this is just the state funeral. The situation now is: * Sublime for the Williamsburg corpo-hipsters * emacs and vim for the wizards and furries * VSCode for all the normies who just want to get on with doing their job and don't feel a need to express their identity or politics through choice of editor * WebStorm for the chads with the monster rigs to run it

> VSCode for all the normies who just want to get on with doing their job and don't feel a need to express their identity or politics through choice of editor

Seems like just another kind of identity: The self-titled "normie" who glances over at the "corpo-hipsters" and "wizards and furries" and smugly pats themselves on the back about how they're so much better because, unlike everyone else, they just want to "get on with doing their job"...

Re: Sunsetting Atom

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Post by throw_m239339 »

faizshah wrote: post #51
jstx1 wrote: post #2

It's what kickstarted Electron which eventually gave us VSCode, Slack, and lots of HN comments about memory usage. It also had the sweetest default theme of any code editor. RIP.

Does anyone remember brackets? I cant remember if brackets or atom came first but I remember switching from sublime to brackets to atom. Good times, I heard DHH is still using TextMate.

Brackets came first.

Re: Sunsetting Atom

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Post by joshstrange »

bckr wrote: post #99
joshstrange wrote: post #56

I know a lot of people love vscode but are there any people who have tried something like IDEA/WebStorm/PHPStorm/etc that then went back to vscode? I had to help a developer setup deploys to a dev server from vscode the other day and I wanted to pull my hair out. I'll admit it's at least in part due to not using vscode myself but I was a heavy Sublime Text user which is very similar to vscode when it comes to how you…

> setup deploys to a dev server from vscode What does this mean? Setting it up so you can deploy through GUI?

On save, deploy the file out to a dev server(s) that runs the full stack (1 or more server per developer that only they use).
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