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of course it matters. it devalues the us dollar as a stable reserve
How does Ukraine aid devalue USD? If anything, it helps keep it in power by weakening Russia and furthering the US hegemony.
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#152Am I correct that it’s not necessarily $10B in withdrawals, as it is that the total market cap (valuation * total coins) dropped by $10B? Seems like an important distinction?
Since Tether is a stable coin™ allegedly backed by and pegged to the price of 1 USD. So if the price is still $1 but the circulation has gone down by 10 billion, that means $10B worth of it has been cached out
Instead of $10B of tether being converted to USD and taken out of the crypto ecosystem, what I suspect has happened is that $10B of loans have been paid back in tether and the collateral has lost value so the borrower cannot re-borrow the tether. Bitfinex doesn't ever redeem tether for USD and that isn't how tether is burned.
This means that it is predominantly crypto backed, which will at some point collapse if crypto collapses, but it is much more intrinsically stable than Terra/Luna up until crypto fails.
Maybe I'm wrong and we're about to see Tether bolt for the exits and crash and take out all of crypto with it. But crypto has been through a worse crypto bear market before, and Tether has been burned before without a systemic panic.
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This is honestly the most asinine remark. Tethers are supposed to be backed by $1 in assets. You're complaining that dollars are created out of nothing - they're not, of course, but even if they were: When Tether holds less than $1 of backing assets for each $1 of USDT in circulation it's worth strictly less than the $1 you're deriding. It is this gap we're talking about. So your comment isn't just wrong, it's comple…
> Banks are backed by the FDIC which in turn is backed by the Fed, you cannot have a bank run anymore. It's not possible. Yes, it is possible. FDIC doesn't insure all deposits. Typically you're capped at X thousands across all your accounts . I'm not sure what the current value of X is, 250? That said, a bank run is improbable. Also, be careful with cash holdings at investment institutions. Those are typically not FD…
This is not correct. The FDIC is very concise with their commitments.
> A: Yes. The FDIC insures deposits according to the ownership category in which the funds are insured and how the accounts are titled. The standard deposit insurance coverage limit is $250,000 per depositor, per FDIC-insured bank, per ownership category.
Source: https://www.fdic.gov/resources/deposit-insurance/faq/
Re: Tether Withdrawals Top $10B
#154All you need for a stable stablecoin is to save every dollar put in to it. The people behind Tether sell tethers for $1, they save all of those dollars, and whenever the price of Tethers drops to $0.99, they buy tethers until the price is back up to $1. As long as they never spend anything from the reserve, this can't fail no matter how unpopular the currency is - they can back the currency right up until they buy back the last outstanding tether with their last dollar.
Of course, they didn't save every dollar; they spent some and invested some, presumably in things that have lost money recently. But they should be solid as long as they have made more money on those investments than they've spent in salaries and yachts and what-not, and Tether was already huge back when BTC was below $2k.
I know I'm leaving out a lot of detail here, but it seems like the only way Tether is not stable is if the people behind it have been wildly profligate. Is this about right, or am I off base?
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Fiat-backed, collaterized stable coins that are better than USDT - USDC (Circle USD) - GUSD (Gemini USD) - BUSD (Binance USD) - EURS (Stasis EUR) Crypto backed (overcollaterized) stable coins that are soft-pegged and better than USDT - DAI (MakerDAO) - sUSD (Synthetix USD) - sEUR (Synthetix EUR) No one needs USDT anymore. The fact that even Binance gets more credibility than Tether should tell you how scammy the peop…
I'd be careful about adding Stasis to this list. Discord users have been complaining about not being able to withdraw through their platform for some time now.
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I will borrow your Tether for a 20% premium for 3 years. Are you in?
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USDT is the fuel that powers a lot the crypto ecosystem. Good luck trying to move USD around between different places in the crypto ecosystem (especially outside office hours). While possible it's complicated, slow and has terrible uptime. The biggest crypto markets in the world are quoted in tether.
Fiat-backed, collaterized stable coins that are better than USDT - USDC (Circle USD) - GUSD (Gemini USD) - BUSD (Binance USD) - EURS (Stasis EUR) Crypto backed (overcollaterized) stable coins that are soft-pegged and better than USDT - DAI (MakerDAO) - sUSD (Synthetix USD) - sEUR (Synthetix EUR) No one needs USDT anymore. The fact that even Binance gets more credibility than Tether should tell you how scammy the peop…
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#158Earlier quoted context omitted.
USDT is the fuel that powers a lot the crypto ecosystem. Good luck trying to move USD around between different places in the crypto ecosystem (especially outside office hours). While possible it's complicated, slow and has terrible uptime. The biggest crypto markets in the world are quoted in tether.
Your answer is not false, but does not explain why someone would hold Tether instead of using it as an intermediate vehicle.
So primetime for holding cash is when there is deflation and you expect to be able to buy more for your dollars later, so you stash it in a bank account or under your mattress. This is generally bad for a regular economy because people stop spending and the economy slows down. That’s why there’s always a little bit of inflation, because better that than deflation! Inflation makes people use their money lest it lose value / gather dust sitting still, and spending money makes the economy run. Having to beat inflation with your investment is a chore, but it’s better that everybody individually decides to do something with their money. I digress.
For Tether, where the only things you can really buy are other cryptocurrencies, deflation just looks like a crypto bear market. So people are likely holding USDT right now.
At the same time, given that the value of USD is set by many trillions of dollars changing hands and millions of contracts priced in it every day, compared to Tether which is like a gift card for a record store that might go out of business, it’s possible for USDT to get unpegged if that record store posts bad results. The strength of the proposition that USDT can be redeemed for USD is the only thing holding it together.
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#159Someone help me understand this. All you need for a stable stablecoin is to save every dollar put in to it. The people behind Tether sell tethers for $1, they save all of those dollars, and whenever the price of Tethers drops to $0.99, they buy tethers until the price is back up to $1. As long as they never spend anything from the reserve, this can't fail no matter how unpopular the currency is - they can back the cu…
Re: Tether Withdrawals Top $10B
#160Someone help me understand this. All you need for a stable stablecoin is to save every dollar put in to it. The people behind Tether sell tethers for $1, they save all of those dollars, and whenever the price of Tethers drops to $0.99, they buy tethers until the price is back up to $1. As long as they never spend anything from the reserve, this can't fail no matter how unpopular the currency is - they can back the cu…
Someone buys $10 tethers for $10 worth of bitcoin, then bitcoin loses value, then the original buyer wants to redeem 10 tether for $10 USD.