151–160 of 361 posts
This isn’t a laptop I would personally buy for many of the reasons others have put in this thread, but it’s incredible to see such a focused SKU from HP here. This will likely be a small volume product and it is almost certainly based on something else in the HP portfolio (advantage of being such a huge OEM), but it’s nice to see a developer marketed laptop in this way. And running a distro other than straight Ubuntu…
Just get an XPS 13 right now.
Sure if you don’t want proper sleep/hibernate. Dell won’t fix and I’m still salty about it after buying two of them.
I'm not going to critique this laptop as others have done here. Just over $1K for a laptop with an 8 core Ryzen, 16GB DDR4 and a 1TB SSD isn't outrageous. The main takeaways I get from this are that HP is now getting on the Linux developer bandwagon, and that they chose Pop!_OS as their distro due to the success and reputation of System76. And I think these are both good things, and a sign that we'll see more of the…
Looks like Apple really has the “charge outrageously and be hailed for it” license. If HP also had that license - even a second or a third tier one - they’d have priced it $2989 and make everything not upgradable and announced “Pre-installed Linux for the first time ever in any…… HP laptop” and HN would be filled with comments like “I only have 3GB RAM in my HP laptop and it even lifts my pickup truck. Best ever $3K…
A new M1 Macbook Air starts at $999, and will put that Ryzen to shame. Not to mention infinitely better build quality and battery life. Apple has always been a great value for the price, even if that price is slightly higher than the bargain bin stuff.
Earlier quoted context omitted.
Quoted post unavailable.
To be fair, this HP does seem like a fairly minimal-effort marketing exercise. It claims to be "Built for developers", but it doesn't really have any special developer-oriented features, other than maybe the keyboard and the preloaded Linux distro. Kind of reminds me of some of the early "For Gamerz!!!" products that were actually just tarted-up commodity junk.
For a company that has no specialized team for distro development, partnering with System76 was probably a really good idea.
Earlier quoted context omitted.
Looks like Apple really has the “charge outrageously and be hailed for it” license. If HP also had that license - even a second or a third tier one - they’d have priced it $2989 and make everything not upgradable and announced “Pre-installed Linux for the first time ever in any…… HP laptop” and HN would be filled with comments like “I only have 3GB RAM in my HP laptop and it even lifts my pickup truck. Best ever $3K…
>Looks like Apple really has the “charge outrageously and be hailed for it” license. A new M1 Macbook Air starts at $999, and will put that Ryzen to shame. Not to mention infinitely better build quality and battery life. Apple has always been a great value for the price, even if that price is slightly higher than the bargain bin stuff.
With the M1 dominance (and inflation) there’s basically no premium at this point (although there is little to no low-end options).
Earlier quoted context omitted.
Looks like Apple really has the “charge outrageously and be hailed for it” license. If HP also had that license - even a second or a third tier one - they’d have priced it $2989 and make everything not upgradable and announced “Pre-installed Linux for the first time ever in any…… HP laptop” and HN would be filled with comments like “I only have 3GB RAM in my HP laptop and it even lifts my pickup truck. Best ever $3K…
>Looks like Apple really has the “charge outrageously and be hailed for it” license. A new M1 Macbook Air starts at $999, and will put that Ryzen to shame. Not to mention infinitely better build quality and battery life. Apple has always been a great value for the price, even if that price is slightly higher than the bargain bin stuff.
If you want to match those specs it jumps up to $1,649 which is $550 more than the HP.
Is the Mac better though? Of course it is, but not everyone needs the latest and greatest and not everyone needs to pay $550 more for it.
Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't get it, you can upgrade it. What's the problem? 16GB is not the maximum possible RAM. Edit: I meant, you can upgrade it when speccing the laptop. The RAM is probably soldered.
Problem is it’s not a metal encased laptop with a partially bitten fruit on the back. If it had been that then people would have been happy to pay $2K for 8GB RAM and sing paeans and wait breathlessly to upgrade to next iteration for $2.9K next year, again with 8GB RAM.
So if you’re stuck at 16GB, that’s unacceptable for a developer laptop in 2022, I don’t care what logo is on the back. 32GB is the only acceptable starting point.
Earlier quoted context omitted.
Am i wrong to think that for 1000 dollars this laptop should come with 32gb of ram? Though its great that one can upgrade the memory.
To put things into perspective, Apple charges $400 to upgrade from $16GB to $32GB. So I’ll say that expecting 32GB RAM in a $1K laptop is a little too unrealistic.
I think a better comparison would be Dell or Lenovo who do the same thing HP does, and they too charge a lot for what are essentially OEM versions of Samsung and Hynix memory anyone can get.
Offset trackpad is a 100% deal breaker for me, sorry. It could support 64GB and Libreboot and I would pass.
I'm constantly touching the pad with the heal of my palm and I'll never buy another laptop with an offset trackpad.
Earlier quoted context omitted.
Looks like Apple really has the “charge outrageously and be hailed for it” license. If HP also had that license - even a second or a third tier one - they’d have priced it $2989 and make everything not upgradable and announced “Pre-installed Linux for the first time ever in any…… HP laptop” and HN would be filled with comments like “I only have 3GB RAM in my HP laptop and it even lifts my pickup truck. Best ever $3K…
>Looks like Apple really has the “charge outrageously and be hailed for it” license. A new M1 Macbook Air starts at $999, and will put that Ryzen to shame. Not to mention infinitely better build quality and battery life. Apple has always been a great value for the price, even if that price is slightly higher than the bargain bin stuff.
For that Macbook Air, it is still a good deal but I'd wait for an M2 version. As for that HP laptop, no thanks and no deal from me.