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The ever-increasing walled-gardeness of Twitter

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Re: The ever-increasing walled-gardeness of Twitter

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Post by zeruch »

riffic wrote: post #113
zeruch wrote: post #70

I was excommunicated from Twitter on fairly laughable grounds (like all social networks these days, they elude exposure by being as oblique/obtuse in moderation as possible), and then allowed endless nonsense because it was 'engaging' which is basically why we have the goat rodeo of today. I went to Mastodon a while ago, and while I miss some of the pocket communities of Twitter (mostly academic/political science and…

Mastodon is really my favorite thing out there. quick disclaimer I am a mod of the /r/Mastodon subreddit so there may be a bit of a bias there (not really though, I just like the software).

It's got it's quirks (and could improve in that regard) but its consistent and has a much more responsive ecosystem. I'm pleased with it so far.

Re: The ever-increasing walled-gardeness of Twitter

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Post by shiomiru »

redmen wrote: post #84
ineedasername wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You've always had to login to post, so I don't see how twitters increasing push to force logins would impact a preexisting spam problem.

Scraping for one.

It doesn't prevent scraping at all, otherwise nitter wouldn't work either.

Re: The ever-increasing walled-gardeness of Twitter

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Post by _moof »

throwaway81523 wrote: post #45

Twitter baffles me. I don't understand why anyone uses it since its UI (at least for readers) is so terrible. People split long posts into dozens of tweets because of the 288 char limit, or else post images of printed pages, instead of using a blogging platform. You get a megabyte of JS bloat along with your 288 character tweet. I joke that the main purpose of 5G mobile is so they can increase the bloat to 10MB inste…

> People split long posts into dozens of tweets

I don't understand why people get so bent out of shape about this. Ok, there's more than one tweet, but they're all on one page, in order, so you've got all the text right there. It's not like you have to do anything special to read it. You just read it and scroll, like you would any other medium. What's the problem?

Re: The ever-increasing walled-gardeness of Twitter

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Post by notreallyserio »

spullara wrote: post #143
eminence32 wrote: post #21

One of the things that has always confused me about twitter is that it seems to be offering a threaded conversation model, yet it tries to "flatten" the conversation and render things in a linear timeline. I've always struggled to understand the full context of the tweet I'm reading (that is, where is this tweet in the full conversation?). Do others also struggle with this? Am I just Doing It Wrong?

I think if you tried you could understand why it looks the way it does. There replies are rendered under what they are replying to. Do you have any example of what you think is being displayed incorrectly?

This is almost never the case for me. The replies to this tweet:

https://mobile.twitter.com/SamTLevin/status/1512109658432888...

are way, way off screen (except for the self replies). And when you scroll down to them it's not clear if they're replies to the first tweet, the last, or the middle.

Re: The ever-increasing walled-gardeness of Twitter

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Post by svnpenn »

hackernewds wrote: post #101
emerged wrote: post #51

Twitter is the homeless encampment of social networks. Sometimes I’ll click the wrong link and end up there. It’s uncomfortable.. lots of people screaming and spreading their excrement around.. I just avoid eye contact, keep quiet and close the tab as quickly as possible.

You seem to have a lot of biases about large swaths of people

You seem to be salty.

Re: The ever-increasing walled-gardeness of Twitter

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Post by svnpenn »

_moof wrote: post #153
throwaway81523 wrote: post #45

Twitter baffles me. I don't understand why anyone uses it since its UI (at least for readers) is so terrible. People split long posts into dozens of tweets because of the 288 char limit, or else post images of printed pages, instead of using a blogging platform. You get a megabyte of JS bloat along with your 288 character tweet. I joke that the main purpose of 5G mobile is so they can increase the bloat to 10MB inste…

> People split long posts into dozens of tweets I don't understand why people get so bent out of shape about this. Ok, there's more than one tweet, but they're all on one page, in order, so you've got all the text right there. It's not like you have to do anything special to read it. You just read it and scroll, like you would any other medium. What's the problem?

People are deliberately misusing the site. The whole point of the character limit, is to force you to make a concise thought.

Some people ignore that, and just ramble over a dozen tweets, like a monkey with a typewriter. The anarchist in me says fine, but objectively it's just a dumb way to use the site. Just make a blog post and link to it.

Re: The ever-increasing walled-gardeness of Twitter

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Post by redmen »

shiomiru wrote: post #152
redmen wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Scraping for one.

It doesn't prevent scraping at all, otherwise nitter wouldn't work either.

???? Firstly nothing prevents scraping. It makes it more expensive.

I ask everyone here to stop telling every word so literal

Re: The ever-increasing walled-gardeness of Twitter

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Post by redmen »

nicce wrote: post #94
redmen wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Scraping for one.

You don’t push feature like that for tens of millions to prevent some scrapers who bypass it in few minutes by creating account which is not providing anything to Twitter. They account requirement is simple there for more efficient data collection.

And Twitter's business model is largely based on data collection?

Re: The ever-increasing walled-gardeness of Twitter

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Post by simonswords82 »

marssaxman wrote: post #56
chias wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I feel the same way about LinkedIn ;)

Good lord. I deleted my linkedin account some 10-15 years ago now, and I've never regretted it. What a ridiculous spam-farm that place was.

Totally agree. I have to use it for my sphere of work (financial services) and the first thing I’m going to do when I retire is delete my account there.
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