X has been really good about open sourcing all of the technical information from shut down projects. They did the same for the Makani power-generating kites. Love to see stuff like this
Google open sources solar atmospheric water generator
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I don’t see how it can be that billions of people lack clean water. It must be plentiful enough and clean enough for the billions of people to exist. If it wasn’t they wouldn’t.
First, let me say the number comes from the readme presented, not my own research or claims. Second, the claim that the water isn't clean enough for drinking should be qualified. You can drink it and survive, hopefully. But bacteria exist in these water sources that give people dysentery or other illnesses from which they die. In underdeveloped parts of the world there are poor mortality rates. Humanitarian goals see…
I think I see what you are saying, and I haven't read the book or anything on this topic. I can absolutely imagine how people would have better lives with more and cleaner water. But billions of people is an extraordinary equilibrium population already, and it makes me wonder if access to water will improve the lives in question, or raise the equilibrium population to a higher level at the same amount of misery and suffering.
Re: Google open sources solar atmospheric water generator
#153A similar idea from 15 years ago using a wind turbine instead of solar:
http://www.technovelgy.com/ct/Science-Fiction-News.asp?NewsN...
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Wait, what? What exactly is a data center by your definition? What individuals (that are entirely disconnected from corporations) need them? How many individuals have personal data centers of such a scale that they would need to produce liquid water on-site for their computing needs? I genuinely believe you’ve described an entirely theoretical person that doesn’t reside in this universe.
People need institutions to run functioning societies. These (public) institutions are one of the most traditional users of large-scale computing. Even in 60s there was a lot of computing done by public institutions. To fulfill the requirements of modern life, DCs are a must. Most modern buildings have at least few racks of compute/storage for services like TV/phone/internet, camera recordings, etc. Even family house…
I’m aware that people and institutions need and have computing devices. What qualifies as a data center?
Re: Google open sources solar atmospheric water generator
#155X has been really good about open sourcing all of the technical information from shut down projects. They did the same for the Makani power-generating kites. Love to see stuff like this
Citation needed. I worked there for two years and there are a LOT of projects that are sitting collecting dust that in my opinion could really help people if they were released as open source. The one I am thinking of (not my place to disclose what it is) was canned in 2017 and I always wished they would have just released it. X has open sourced some stuff and that is great, but whether they have been "really good" about this is debatable IMO.
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#156Earlier quoted context omitted.
Are there any sites that help build groups around current and upcoming open-source projects, and also encourage people to make stuff open-source - perhaps with pledges? ... a more business-focused GitHub. ... an OpenSea for inventors. Imagine if money spent on NFTs would go to cool projects instead of avatars!
Also imagine if money spent on stock buybacks went somewhere productive. :/
If a company can't think of anything useful and cost-effective to spend their money on, giving that money back in the way that passes through the largest portion of it is the most productive thing they could do.
Let the investors allocate their money efficiently, rather than buying a gold mine as a movie theatre company (as an example).
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#157So what is the practical use of this? Let's say that I'm not an engineer or a researcher or a coder, but would like to set some of these units up to collect water. How do I do so? Do I approach someone to build this for me (who?)? How much can I expect it to cost? In other words, how can I actualize this vision: > So the H2E team asked: “What if you could put the power to generate daily drinking water into the hands…
Are there any sites that help build groups around current and upcoming open-source projects, and also encourage people to make stuff open-source - perhaps with pledges? ... a more business-focused GitHub. ... an OpenSea for inventors. Imagine if money spent on NFTs would go to cool projects instead of avatars!
> Are there any sites that help build groups around current and upcoming open-source projects, and also encourage people to make stuff open-source - perhaps with pledges?
Open Collective is designed to do exactly that:
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#158Open sources is another word for "abandons". Israel has made a massive desalination plant, to turn salt water into potable water and it's no easy task. If they could have taken water from the atmosphere I'm sure they would have tried. It's a pipe dream so far.
In this sense, isn't most research abandoned after the paper is written? But there are better and worse ways to do it.
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#159X has been really good about open sourcing all of the technical information from shut down projects. They did the same for the Makani power-generating kites. Love to see stuff like this
Citation needed. I worked there for two years and there are a LOT of projects that are sitting collecting dust that in my opinion could really help people if they were released as open source. The one I am thinking of (not my place to disclose what it is) was canned in 2017 and I always wished they would have just released it. X has open sourced some stuff and that is great, but whether they have been "really good" a…
I am guessing either a) nobody pursued this for that project or b) the implementation had some cutting-edge/proprietary/secret-sauce (AI algos, models, data, etc) involved that came from some other part of Google.
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#160Open sources is another word for "abandons". Israel has made a massive desalination plant, to turn salt water into potable water and it's no easy task. If they could have taken water from the atmosphere I'm sure they would have tried. It's a pipe dream so far.
> Open sources is another word for "abandons".
They are not equivalent. Yes, it's disappointing; however, open sourcing it makes it easier for someone else to continue the relay race, rather than needlessly experience Groundhog Day.