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Re: Vanced has been discontinued

#151

Welp. Using the official Youtube app is a miserable experience. Guess it's time to check out NewPipe again.

What problems do you have with the official app? I normally have large list of complaints about video streaming services, and I don't have a single issue with the Android Youtube app

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Re: Vanced has been discontinued

#153

I pay for YTM, so haven’t ever tried any of these Adblocking things for YT. I think $10/mo is pretty decent for a music service and also the removal of all ads from YT (which includes their fairly decent library of free movies that would be ad-supported without YTM/YTP)

And it's worth remembering that some/most of that money goes to the creators of the videos you watch.

Re: Vanced has been discontinued

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> I'd be happy to support youtube if they actually supported their community and content creators YouTube Premium does support creators, 55% of your subscription gets split among the creators you watch. The more you watch a specific creator, the more they get from your subscription. I've seen some creators say they get more from Premium users than from ad-watching users.

Google keeping 45% of subscription revenue is even worse than the 15% to 30% of app subscription revenue they keep. For reference, Bandcamp pays creators 85% to 90% of the revenue they generate.

I am guessing Youtube's bandwidth cost will be higher compared to Bandcamp but that probably does not justify keeping 45% of the revenue.

Re: Vanced has been discontinued

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Firefox mobile with ublock, no YouTube app at all. Suck it google.

The mobile YouTube site is one of the worst usability experiences out there.

You need to see the clusterfuck that is Twitter.com mobile site, it's so slow and laggy that it makes YT seem like a perfectly good page.

Re: Vanced has been discontinued

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But the source for the hacks could be made open, so that other people could work on it.

How would that (legally and technically) work exactly? And how would you defend even the hacks themselves against DMCA?

The ROM hack community has been releasing patches to proprietary software for years without legal issues.

Re: Vanced has been discontinued

#158

NewPipe [1] is an open-source alternative, although latest versions of Vanced will supposedly keep working for the foreseeable future [2]. [1]: https://newpipe.net/ [2]: https://nitter.net/YTVanced/status/1503055442506915846#m

As others have noted, NewPipe lacks a lot of functionality, polish, and just generally breaks far too frequently. I'm in the tech industry so I can deal with the app breaking occasionally, but during my stint using it, it was almost every month that it broke. My girlfriend who has some technical knowledge just gave up on it because it was too frustrating that it kept breaking, and not only that, the devs urged users…

It sometimes breaks because of changes on YouTube's end to prevent people from downloading videos or using 3rd party clients.

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#159

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Well, they only deserve to be sued in your ethical system. To me, adding features that I can't even get if I pay isn't unethical, it's commendable.

Having come to adulthood in the 90s we all agreed that intellectual property was an oxymoron. It strikes me as odd people worry about the business model of mega corporations. Is it a sense of fairness? I have that instinct, but it doesn't apply to the likes of faang entities.

Yeah, I tend to agree. Those were different times, but computing was so much more interesting before everything was server-based subscriptions.

Re: Vanced has been discontinued

#160

I pay for YTM, so haven’t ever tried any of these Adblocking things for YT. I think $10/mo is pretty decent for a music service and also the removal of all ads from YT (which includes their fairly decent library of free movies that would be ad-supported without YTM/YTP)

Financially supporting Google is the last thing I want to do. I'd rather flush the money down the toilet than pay for Youtube.

How about financially supporting the people whose content you consume?
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