Are the neural engines actually used for anything, to anyone's knowledge? Edit: Apparently in iPhones, they are used for FaceID.
It's to build a giant distributed Aleph in which a preserved digitized Steve Jobs can live once again.
Apple M1 Ultra
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Re: Apple M1 Ultra
#152Looks like all the people saying "just start fusing those M1 CPU's into bigger ones" were right, that's basically what they did here (fused two M1 Max'es together). And since the presenter mentioned the Mac Pro would come on another day, I wonder if they'll just do 4x M1 Max for that.
>I wonder if they'll just do 4x M1 Max for that. They'll be running out of names for that thing. M1 Ultra II would be lame, so M1 Extreme? M1 Steve?
M1 Plaid
Re: Apple M1 Ultra
#153At what point Apple will put those chips in their servers or sell server chips? It only makes sense for them to take this architecture to the cloud deployments
It's going to be a couple years. The guys who bought those power workstations and servers will be very peeved if it happens too quickly
Re: Apple M1 Ultra
#154How does Apple manage to blow every other computing OEM out of the water? What's in the secret sauce of their company? Is it great leadership? Top tier engineering talent? Lots of money? I simply don't understand.
D) all of the above?
Re: Apple M1 Ultra
#155Is it actually more powerful than a top of the line threadripper[0] or is that not a "personal computer" CPU by this definition? I feel like 64 cores would beat 20 on some workloads even if the 20 were way faster in single core performance. [0] https://www.amd.com/en/products/cpu/amd-ryzen-threadripper-3...
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Re: Apple M1 Ultra
#156The power leveling in this chip's naming scheme can rival Dragon Ball Z.
I wish HN was like this more often
I appreciate that it's infrequent. Sure, it's fun to blow off some steam and have a laugh, but that's fundamentally not what this place is about. Confining it to Apple release threads makes it more of a purge scenario.
Re: Apple M1 Ultra
#157Earlier quoted context omitted.
>I wonder if they'll just do 4x M1 Max for that. They'll be running out of names for that thing. M1 Ultra II would be lame, so M1 Extreme? M1 Steve?
> M1 Steve That would be the funniest thing Apple has done in years. I totally support the idea.
Pro < Max < Ultra < Ne Plus Ultra < Steve
Re: Apple M1 Ultra
#158Is it actually more powerful than a top of the line threadripper[0] or is that not a "personal computer" CPU by this definition? I feel like 64 cores would beat 20 on some workloads even if the 20 were way faster in single core performance. [0] https://www.amd.com/en/products/cpu/amd-ryzen-threadripper-3...
Seems like for things that are: 1. Perfectly parallel 2. Not accelerated by some of the other stuff that's on the Apple Silicon SoC's ...it will be a toss-up.
Threadripper 3990X get about 25k in Geekbench Multicore [1]
M1 Max gets about 12.5k in Geekbench Multicore, so pretty much exactly half [2]
Obviously different tasks will have _vastly_ different performance profiles. For example it's likely that the M1 Ultra will blow the Threadripper out of the water for video stuff, whereas Threadripper is likely to win certain types of compiling.
There's also the upcoming 5995WX which will be even faster: [3]
[1] https://browser.geekbench.com/processors/amd-ryzen-threadrip...
[2] https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/search?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q...
[3] https://www.amd.com/en/products/cpu/amd-ryzen-threadripper-p...
Re: Apple M1 Ultra
#159Is it actually more powerful than a top of the line threadripper[0] or is that not a "personal computer" CPU by this definition? I feel like 64 cores would beat 20 on some workloads even if the 20 were way faster in single core performance. [0] https://www.amd.com/en/products/cpu/amd-ryzen-threadripper-3...
Having not seen benchmarks, I would imagine that claimed memory bandwidth of ~800 GB/s vs Threadripper's claimed ~166 GB/s would make a significant difference for a number of real-world workloads.
Re: Apple M1 Ultra
#160"Apple’s innovative packaging architecture that interconnects the die of two M1 Max chips to create a system on a chip (SoC)"
Did they get their terminology confused? Later it says "By connecting two M1 Max die with our UltraFusion packaging architecture [...]" which also sounds like it's a MCM and not a SoC.