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Re: Apple announces 27-inch 5K Studio Display

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Post by newaccount74 »

ballenf wrote: post #140
techpression wrote: post #115

For all the work Apple is doing to improve their environmental impact (which I applaud) I'm completely flabbergasted as to why this is a single device monitor. It's quite the impact on the environment to require users who have a Mac mini/Studio and a MacBook Pro to buy two monitors (no matter how great the production chain is). Sure, you can plug/unplug the cable, but that works so-so on a Studio with the ports on th…

Use the remote control technology in the latest MacOS. It will allow the keyboard and mouse from the Studio to control the laptop. Even more environmentally friendly than having an extra cable.

I've been using 2 machines with universal control (it works pretty well in the latest betas), and it's quite neat.

Unexpected side effect: Two machines allow you to keep working while installing system updates, which seem to take forever nowadays.

Re: Apple announces 27-inch 5K Studio Display

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Post by pedrocr »

jimrandomh wrote: post #110

It's kind of ridiculous how slow the progress in screen resolutions has been. It's disappointing that Apple is only going for 5k, not 8k; they're well positioned to fix the ecosystem and bring high-resolution large displays to everyone, if only they tried. I'm finally sitting in front of an 8k 65" screen. This gives me a nice combination of decent picel density in the center and lots of peripheral vision in which to…

I've seen this sentiment a lot but it doesn't track with my experience. 4K@60Hz is now common and very cheap (<300€ for an LG IPS 27'' screen). It definitely wasn't just a few years ago, people even bought weird 4k@30Hz screens as a compromise. 5K is an intermediate step most manufacturers didn't bother with and we're getting 8K now at which point we've pretty much maxed out human vision for almost all applications. As far as I can tell we live in the future and nobody is happy. Maybe it is because very high end screens did 4K and 5K early and stopped there for a while because at that price it was a niche. Meanwhile all the innovation has been on making the cheaper ones reach that same level.

Re: Apple announces 27-inch 5K Studio Display

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Post by bragh »

copperx wrote: post #38
adrianmsmith wrote: post #28

Would be nice to have >5K resolutions to have more pixel density. Alas, macOS doesn't support any native scaling other than 100% and 200%. So if they did release e.g. a 27" 8K monitor, the text would either be too small, or they'd have to use bitmap scaling to make it bigger in which case there'd be no advantage of having an 8K monitor. (EDIT: To clarify, all other scaling factors are done by rendering at either 100%…

I'm confused by your post. macOS definitely supports fractional scaling since 2012.

It depends on how the display is detected. Never got it to work with Dell UltraSharps, but some curved LG display works fine.

Re: Apple announces 27-inch 5K Studio Display

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Post by wmf »

stanmancan wrote: post #144
jimrandomh wrote: post #110

It's kind of ridiculous how slow the progress in screen resolutions has been. It's disappointing that Apple is only going for 5k, not 8k; they're well positioned to fix the ecosystem and bring high-resolution large displays to everyone, if only they tried. I'm finally sitting in front of an 8k 65" screen. This gives me a nice combination of decent picel density in the center and lots of peripheral vision in which to…

Driving an 8K monitor can be a bit hard on some computers, no? And chaining multiple 8K monitors is an even bigger challenge.

If only Apple made an Ultra-powerful computer that could drive 8K...

Re: Apple announces 27-inch 5K Studio Display

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Post by newaccount74 »

danielvf wrote: post #137

I've worked off Apple Cinema displays since the '90s and Apple Studio displays before that. I am a monitor snob. I care deeply how things look. I currently have an Apple XDR Pro monitor. It's not a great monitor - it is indeed big, the outside is as cool as anything ever made, and the USB-C hub is nice. But in EVERY other way it is badly inferior to the stock 5K monitor that comes with even the cheapest 27" iMac from…

What's bad about the XDR?

Re: Apple announces 27-inch 5K Studio Display

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Post by mrtksn »

DCKing wrote: post #26

I like this announcement, because it means that there's a manufacturing line for proper HiDPI [1] displays running in some LG factory somewhere that third party manufactures like LG/Dell/Iiyama can hopefully use to give us some fresh good-looking 27" 5K desktop monitors. It boggles my mind how little attention very high pixel density displays have been getting from PC display manufacturers. I would also be first in l…

The PC market seems to be driven by the gamers and the word on the gamers street is that it's all about latency.

I actually like extra wide displays. There are few interesting options like that but the rest seems to be dominated by low color, low resolution, low latency stuff.

Re: Apple announces 27-inch 5K Studio Display

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Post by mywittyname »

DCKing wrote: post #26

I like this announcement, because it means that there's a manufacturing line for proper HiDPI [1] displays running in some LG factory somewhere that third party manufactures like LG/Dell/Iiyama can hopefully use to give us some fresh good-looking 27" 5K desktop monitors. It boggles my mind how little attention very high pixel density displays have been getting from PC display manufacturers. I would also be first in l…

> It boggles my mind how little attention very high pixel density displays have been getting from PC display manufacturers.

Didn't Apple corner the market on these displays by buying up all available capacity for retinas?

Re: Apple announces 27-inch 5K Studio Display

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Post by pedrocr »

BoorishBears wrote: post #122
jimrandomh wrote: post #110

It's kind of ridiculous how slow the progress in screen resolutions has been. It's disappointing that Apple is only going for 5k, not 8k; they're well positioned to fix the ecosystem and bring high-resolution large displays to everyone, if only they tried. I'm finally sitting in front of an 8k 65" screen. This gives me a nice combination of decent picel density in the center and lots of peripheral vision in which to…

This 5k 27" screens blows your 8k 65" screen out if the water at any reasonable viewing distance for a computer monitor... Nearly no one wants TVs for monitors, the evidence is LG's OLEDs which gamers will take 1440p ultrawides with infinitely worse picture quality over, just for the more reasonable form factor.

Setting the 8K screen farther away so it fills the same field of view will make it strictly better than the smaller 5K if you can manage it. Same view, more angular resolution and your eyes are focused farther away which reduces eye strain.

Re: Apple announces 27-inch 5K Studio Display

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Post by jimrandomh »

stanmancan wrote: post #144
jimrandomh wrote: post #110

It's kind of ridiculous how slow the progress in screen resolutions has been. It's disappointing that Apple is only going for 5k, not 8k; they're well positioned to fix the ecosystem and bring high-resolution large displays to everyone, if only they tried. I'm finally sitting in front of an 8k 65" screen. This gives me a nice combination of decent picel density in the center and lots of peripheral vision in which to…

Driving an 8K monitor can be a bit hard on some computers, no? And chaining multiple 8K monitors is an even bigger challenge.

The key feature is "HDMI 2.1 display stream compression", which is only present in very recent GPUs, and without which a computer can't output 8k at all. If it's new enough to have that feature, it's fast enough to handle 8k no problem. I don't typically run videogames at 8k, but I'm sitting close enough that I want them centered in a ~4k window anyways rather than filling my peripheral vision.

Re: Apple announces 27-inch 5K Studio Display

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Post by newaccount74 »

alexashka wrote: post #52
hughrr wrote: post #4

Sold. Been waiting for this for years. Edit: to clarify I will lurk and wait until it is £200 off on Amazon one day because I don’t need it immediately.

For what? A 2014 display for 1600$?

Assuming this is the same panel as in the 5k iMac, it's a good panel. It doesn't matter that it's old. What matters is that it works, and that you can actually buy it. There are very few high res displays on the market.

It would be nice if it cost less than 1000€, but I guess you can't have everything.

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