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Re: Russian news channel RT to broadcast on Rumble after Big Tech curbs

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It's pure propaganda by now. Even journalists of RT in the West decided to quit their job ( publicly announced through Twitter), because it went insane.

It'd be nice if the "journalist" at CNN had the same kind of integrity.

Some have, not only at CNN. However, the level of propaganda on RT is very different.

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What a dumb argument. North Korea also has hospitals. Are hospitals a sign of tyrannical dictatorship? Use your brain a little, for fucks sake.

I'm genuinely shocked that all of this goes straight over your head. I suppose that your desperate need for yes-men and sympathy lead you to pulling false equivalence out of thin air. Perhaps that also confirms the name-calling, it must be frustrating to you.

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> And he didn't call for violence but for response from international community > I would very much like international community to get involved and vaporize putin and entire russian army with entire government and elites. You're a living contradiction, man.

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Re: Russian news channel RT to broadcast on Rumble after Big Tech curbs

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Every conflict party in every conflict does that. Remember the story about Iraqi soldiers pulling babies out of incubators in Kuwait? Told by a “nurse” in from of the UN, so that the US would get permission to invade Iraq? People need to be able to see these stories to learn to recognize them as the bullshit they are. Hiding them will do more harm that good in the long to.

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Second of all, meta-whataboutism. If you are arguing for censorship, you are wrong.

Re: Russian news channel RT to broadcast on Rumble after Big Tech curbs

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Coz it was an honest question. I was curious about whether you would genuinely like to see every CNN employee jailed for life. You answered clearly and in the affirmative. I dont agree with your answer and I dont find it to be consistent with a belief in free speech but it is consistent with what you previously said.

If CNN participated in a blatant propaganda - i would want to hold them accountable. I don't believe they did during Iraq war, primarily because CNN is not government owned media and they don't know what is true or not. You can blame them for not verifying stories (and there should be responsibility for that as well), but RT absolutely knows what things they report are propaganda lies and what aren't.

> CNN participated in a blatant propaganda - i would want to hold them accountable

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA... Oh, oh boy.

Re: Russian news channel RT to broadcast on Rumble after Big Tech curbs

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Second of all, meta-whataboutism. If you are arguing for censorship, you are wrong.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crucified_boy

i will argue for censoring that shit during war. i understand your position, but i disagree.

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The fact that pro putin’s propaganda channel comments are getting upvoted, while those against are downvoted says a lot about the type of people that use this forum. Russia today and sputnik constantly promote anti western values, politicians and groups and are a major source of misinformation yet some call banning these weapons of war censorship. Appalling.

HN in general has taken a hard lurch to the libertarian right as of late. In this highly upvoted value system, there is no higher principle than free speech and no greater sin than censorship. Except censoring the censors, which is viewed more harshly than censorship itself.

People will respond and say that HN isn't a monolith, and thats true. At the same time, these extreme takes are dominating the top posts of every thread thats even slightly tangential. One of the top posts on the thread about wifi ovens was about how the government was installing killswitches into smart devices.

The view from nowhere [1] is especially relevant nowadays.

1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Journalistic_objectivity#View_...

Re: Russian news channel RT to broadcast on Rumble after Big Tech curbs

#158

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Second of all, meta-whataboutism. If you are arguing for censorship, you are wrong.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crucified_boy i will argue for censoring that shit during war. i understand your position, but i disagree.

I did read that in our original post. And I agree that there's always things that really ought not to be said. (And giving alternate examples is not always whataboutism.) But the problem with censorship, and specifically the underlying power in implement it, always comes back to "who watches the watchmen" - I don't trust RT to tell me the truth, but I really don't trust big tech and the US/EU gov to be the gatekeepers.

Re: Russian news channel RT to broadcast on Rumble after Big Tech curbs

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Every conflict party in every conflict does that. Remember the story about Iraqi soldiers pulling babies out of incubators in Kuwait? Told by a “nurse” in from of the UN, so that the US would get permission to invade Iraq? People need to be able to see these stories to learn to recognize them as the bullshit they are. Hiding them will do more harm that good in the long to.

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> without allowing enemy propaganda to poison gullible part of population uncontested

With all due respect but this paternalistic approach to what people should and shouldn't be allowed in knowing is a despicable point of view. Why do you think that you personally, or anyone can be sufficiently impartial to decide what's allowed?

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RT reported about ukrainian army crucifying a child in Donbas in 2014 which literally caused some people in Russia to volunteer as fighters and cross the border with intention to kill ukrainians. No, RT should be banned and every person working for it should be jailed for life. Freedom of speech is not freedom of inciting violence and hatred. Edit: here, educate yourself - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crucified_boy

Every conflict party in every conflict does that. Remember the story about Iraqi soldiers pulling babies out of incubators in Kuwait? Told by a “nurse” in from of the UN, so that the US would get permission to invade Iraq? People need to be able to see these stories to learn to recognize them as the bullshit they are. Hiding them will do more harm that good in the long to.

The generic term is atrocity propaganda
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