YouTube suspends The Hill for playing clip of Trump denying election results

Post by 8note » Sat, Mar 05, 2022, 1:24 AM UTC

andrewjf wrote: post #92

nostromo wrote: post #69

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Hillary has been claiming the 2016 election was stolen by Russia for Trump for six years now, and nobody seems to fret about how she’s undermining democracy. There were even many faithless electors that tried to overturn the results. Much like Trump, she just can’t seem to admit she lost. Both parties need to learn that if you lose it’s because you didn’t get enough votes and to reflect on why that is. Although I’m s…

> Both parties need to learn that if you lose it’s because voters just didn’t like you that much. What you're saying is only true in a dream world where gerrymandering, closing polling places, and preventing access to ballot boxes (in-person or otherwise) isn't happening. Unfortunately this isn't the case. So, no, you are wrong.

Post by nxm » Sat, Mar 05, 2022, 1:25 AM UTC

andrewjf wrote: post #92

nostromo wrote: post #69

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Hillary has been claiming the 2016 election was stolen by Russia for Trump for six years now, and nobody seems to fret about how she’s undermining democracy. There were even many faithless electors that tried to overturn the results. Much like Trump, she just can’t seem to admit she lost. Both parties need to learn that if you lose it’s because you didn’t get enough votes and to reflect on why that is. Although I’m s…

> Both parties need to learn that if you lose it’s because voters just didn’t like you that much. What you're saying is only true in a dream world where gerrymandering, closing polling places, and preventing access to ballot boxes (in-person or otherwise) isn't happening. Unfortunately this isn't the case. So, no, you are wrong.

Post by lostlogin » Sat, Mar 05, 2022, 1:25 AM UTC

pyuser583 wrote: post #82

TameAntelope wrote: post #26

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Curious about where you see an institutionalized support on the left for election tampering claims, if you have any sources.

The 2000 Presidential election was attacked as illegitimate. I was watching the latter seasons of X-Files and Fox Mulder made a comment on 2000 elections, something like “that sounds about as reliable as our elections.” Plenty of folks, Howard Dean comes to mind, said they were straight up illegitimate. Even now many on the left insist it was a tie or something. This thing of “if you don’t win the elections, question…

Post by majormajor » Sat, Mar 05, 2022, 1:26 AM UTC

cabaalis wrote: post #103

slg wrote: post #88

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I always enjoy a well crafted comment like this in which the reader can't tell if the "authoritarianism" you are decrying is the former president trying to circumvent democracy or the censorship of people who are spreading that message. It allows you to collect upvotes from people on both sides thinking you are accusing the other of authoritarianism.

Either people have and live by principles or they don't. Part of our division is these sides you speak of, instructing their followers what to believe about individual topics.

Post by xiphias2 » Sat, Mar 05, 2022, 1:27 AM UTC

choward wrote: post #50

xiphias2 wrote: post #37

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Meming about and being afraid of WW3 is critical in containing/deescalating it. WW1 happened partly because nobody was afraid of it happenning.

Not when the meming calls for escalation by sending weapons to Ukraine and imposing sanctions.