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Re: Huawei MatePad Paper – eInk Tablet

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Post by rjzzleep » Tue, Mar 01, 2022, 2:41 PM UTC

SamBam wrote: post #126

npteljes wrote: post #113

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They have a function for it. From TFA: "Capture detail in every meeting with audio recording and notes. Make a mark on your recording while taking notes, then tap on the mark to play the exact audio clip. Review your content more clearly and efficiently."

This is pretty clever. If I recall, the LiveScribe Smart Pen had/has this feature. You just draw some symbol and tap it, and it inserts a voice recording at that spot. Surprised this isn't standard on these products now.

I have a hisense eink pocket reader(5.84") and it has an eink refresh button. It's hisense's degoogled android(only support chinese and english and some menus have weird grammar).

But what's interesting is that if you hold the extra button it launches into a notes app which has dictation and unlike googles own dictation it does a pretty good job at capturing both chinese and english without needing to switch.

I didn't try it for longer than a couple of sentences, but in general it's an interesting idea. It does have a lot of very nice eink optimizations that other devices don't have.

Contrary to huawei however this device has a snapdragon and allows unlocking the bootloader. There is however no dev community around this device and I don't feel like fixing the headphone amp.

https://goodereader.com/blog/reviews/hisense-touch-music-pla...

Re: Huawei MatePad Paper – eInk Tablet

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Post by throwoutway » Tue, Mar 01, 2022, 2:43 PM UTC

sdevonoes wrote: post #104

calrain wrote: post #82

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Please, it's 2022: anything that is not open source is suspicious of being spyware. We don't even trust our own governments, how on earth are we going to trust any private company (Huawei, Google, Apple, etc.)?

Ok, but Huawei outranks them all and the entire telecom world knows why. If you have to choose a lesser evil, choose someone else

Re: Huawei MatePad Paper – eInk Tablet

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Post by fluidcruft » Tue, Mar 01, 2022, 2:44 PM UTC

The screenshot of Home where they're showcasing widgets otherwise looks almost exactly like Boox. Other interactions also look like the Boox software. Not to mention the device looks like an update Boox Air. Are Boox and Huawei related?

Re: Huawei MatePad Paper – eInk Tablet

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Post by wraptile » Tue, Mar 01, 2022, 2:44 PM UTC

m12k wrote: post #147

wraptile wrote: post #146

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You can turn these all off. Lack of features is not a feature imho - no mather how hard people try to sell this.

Twitter exists because you can't write long posts. Snapchat exists because you can't view past messages. Tinder exists because you can't just talk to anyone unless they are interested in you too. Limitations and missing "features" absolutely can be an asset to a platform.

You're comparing apples to oranges - those are social networks where multiple people have to come to some sort of consensus, having rules over that consensus sure, can be a feature. I don't need anyone to agree with me to turn off notifications.

Re: Huawei MatePad Paper – eInk Tablet

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Post by hdjjhhvvhga » Tue, Mar 01, 2022, 2:45 PM UTC

netizen-936824 wrote: post #33

einpoklum wrote: post #31

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Whatever Amazon sells you, you're probably paying for it indirectly some other way.

I agree. This is a poor comparison. A product that's subsidized will always win the price war with one that's not

Well, the difference between Kindle Paperwhite and Oasis is just one inch - but you need to pay twice as much. You could say only the former is subsidized - but wouldn't it be in Amazon's best interest to make reading experience more comfortable?

Re: Huawei MatePad Paper – eInk Tablet

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Post by rchaud » Tue, Mar 01, 2022, 2:46 PM UTC

echelon wrote: post #35

smilespray wrote: post #25

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Also, if you want basic features like cloud sync and handwriting conversion, you have to sign up for the $8/mo subscription. Which is why hell will freeze over before I purchase a reMarkable. Incidentally, the free plan offers something called "50-day sync", which is described like this: "Without a subscription, you can still use the cloud to store and sync your notes. However, files will stop syncing to the mobile a…

> Also, if you want basic features like cloud sync and handwriting conversion, you have to sign up for the $8/mo subscription. > Which is why hell will freeze over before I purchase a reMarkable. Maker of capital intensive hardware seeks revenue streams to bolster development and hire more engineers. Chinese MANGA equivalent enters the chat with their own hardware financed from other business units and potentially su…

> Maker of capital intensive hardware seeks revenue streams to bolster development and hire more engineers.

If China wasn't in this conversation, the above would be criticized as an example of greedy MBAs nickel and diming the consumer.

The capability to do file sync for free has existed on computing devices for ages, yet somehow this is an area where rent-seeking is acceptable? At least Chinese vendors like Onyx use Android under the hood, so setting up Nextcloud, Dropbox or Syncthing Fork can be done in a matter of minutes, without any ridiculous subscription fees.

Re: Huawei MatePad Paper – eInk Tablet

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Post by fredoliveira » Tue, Mar 01, 2022, 2:48 PM UTC

rchaud wrote: post #148

youhavetosayit wrote: post #130

Remarkable 2 is better, because of the features it doesn't have. The best feature of Remarkable 2 is how quiet it is, it doesn't do anything except for Book reading and note taking. No notifications, no messaging, no email, quiet tech.

What 'loud' tech did you see on the linked page? Everything was about reading and writing.

Not gp, but the app store and matebook syncing in particular jump out to me as going beyond reading and writing. Not that I disagree with their inclusion necessarily (I'm sure they put in whatever made sense in their ecosystem), but it won't be for everyone.

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Post by rchaud » Tue, Mar 01, 2022, 2:50 PM UTC

pastrami_panda wrote: post #36

With all the events happening right now I find it really hard to justify buying products made in China/Russia/Belarus. This product looks great, but I'll never have a clean conscious knowing my money is by extension financing terrorists.

But you'd buy an iPad right? Chinese factory owners certainly aren't making any money there /s

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Post by severino » Tue, Mar 01, 2022, 2:51 PM UTC

GiorgioG wrote: post #63

sofixa wrote: post #43

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Why are you lumping China with the actual invaders? There's the Taiwan mess, and China don't participate in the sanctions regime, but it's not the same thing as actively invading. ( For the record, i think that sanctioning Russia is the morally correct thing to do)

China could easily tell Russia to knock it off.

They can't. Going against Russia means supporting USA, which is currently China's number one enemy.

Re: Huawei MatePad Paper – eInk Tablet

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Post by SilentM68 » Tue, Mar 01, 2022, 2:53 PM UTC

This could be an alternative to LiveScribe Smart Pen, in a classroom setting, which records audio as you write with it and then allows for immediate audio playback by tapping the section of the written notes that one needs to listen to again.

Only difference between tablet and the pen is that the pen requires physical paper notebooks to be purchased once the old notebook is used up.

With improved battery life, it'd make a very useful assistive technology in a classroom setting.