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Discord is a black hole for information

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Re: Discord is a black hole for information

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Mostly, yes, but it comes down to moderation and subreddit culture. Reddit - as a company - doesn't take moderation seriously, as evidenced by it being left to unpaid volunteers.

Trying to find a specific post on a subreddit is a nightmare. The built in search functionality is horrible.

At least it is indexed in Google. Not an excuse for Reddit's horrible search, I know, but IM doesn't even have that option.

Re: Discord is a black hole for information

#152

I periodically see complaints like this posted here. I wonder if I am in an information bubble. Are HN readers, a more traditional forum, biased against non-traditional fora? If nothing else, it would be hard for to post a link on HN to Discord discussion about the advantages of Discord, where, presumably, such a discussion would most likely transpire.

I can't speak for anyone else, but I'm tired of proprietary, centralized communication systems. What I want is open, accessible, and decentralized or at least federated, or something that someone can start up an instance of. I don't care if you want to start your own server, or use something hosted, I just want it to be the case that someone can.

Traditional forums aren't networked. It's not like I can mirror HN either. But I could go start a forum somewhere if I wanted, and there would be a record of posts somewhere.

Discord kinda runs into two problems for me: it isn't an open decentralized protocol, and it seems like it's being misused or something? I guess if devs want to use it and welcome anyone to come in and see what's going on, great. But then I'd prefer they use something decentralized, and it still isn't a substitute for a forum or forum-like place.

I think your question is an important one just as a sort of perspective check, but I can articulate pretty clearly what it is about use of Discord that bothers me, and can point to very popular systems that work much better as theoretical examples or templates in my mind (for example, Matrix, Reddit, or Twitter).

Re: Discord is a black hole for information

#153

I periodically see complaints like this posted here. I wonder if I am in an information bubble. Are HN readers, a more traditional forum, biased against non-traditional fora? If nothing else, it would be hard for to post a link on HN to Discord discussion about the advantages of Discord, where, presumably, such a discussion would most likely transpire.

One can hardly describe Discord as non-traditional, since there are no new ideas on display. It’s well executed for the needs of a particular segment, that’s all.

In some ways in fact the problem is that Discord is too traditional.

Re: Discord is a black hole for information

#154
post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Mostly, yes, but it comes down to moderation and subreddit culture. Reddit - as a company - doesn't take moderation seriously, as evidenced by it being left to unpaid volunteers.

Trying to find a specific post on a subreddit is a nightmare. The built in search functionality is horrible.

Just use Google. Reddit's built in search is useless in comparison. Yesterday I found a great thread about suit tailors in my city. The posts were all 3 years old but fortunately the tailor was still active. Digging up this info would be impossible on Discord, because at best I'd be locating individual comments asking about the topic, then scroll down to see if anybody bothered to post a response instead of changing the topic to something else.

Re: Discord is a black hole for information

#155

As a maintainer of a small open source project I have to disagree. The hurdle for someone to join Discord and ask a question is much lower than signing up to a custom forum and posting there. I also love interacting with people that use my stuff. Makes me feel warm and fuzzy to see that people are actually using it. I can see the other side of course. There are a few things that are repeated questions or useful conte…

I'm a discord user. I'm in several servers. I'm even Nitro.

...and I'm probably not going to join your server to ask questions or get help. If I can't get help via your git platform or shoot off an email, I'm probably just going to not use the software.

Gitter, for all it's flaws, is ok for this case. The effort to join is very low.

Discord is a whole beast. Every server has a gauntlet to join with a dozen bots and channels, and then Discord over-notifies you for every message until you tune it down.

Re: Discord is a black hole for information

#156
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What is strange about Discord is this great discrepancy between the ones that love it and the ones that hate it. If I were to guess on the reason of why that might be it would be that Discord is probably really good for the people that are constantly on it, and don't really miss any communication going in. These people have probably been there for some time so they don't feel the problem of not knowing where the past…

To be honest, I do like Discord, but I only really use it for gaming with friends. We set up a server and use it for multiplayer games, occasionally share memes, etc. I really do not like it for communities, there's too much noise and too many annoucements.

I was surprised to see that it's used more and more for work, instead of Slack. At first I thought this was a good thing (Discord feels much snappier, doesn't have the same search limitations, has voice channels) but it's been awkward. There is a way to change your name on specific servers, so you can be anonymous on gaming ones and recognizable on work ones, but people can still track you across (for example with the "servers you're both in" profile feature). Changing your avatar on specific servers is also a paid feature.

I kind of want to run two instances, but this is apparently a ban-able offence.

Re: Discord is a black hole for information

#157

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You can get just as good voice chat on Signal, and it is miles easier to use than Discord, especially for people familiar with WhatsApp, Viber and other privacy invaders. And all of the screenshares and embeds that Discord gets glorified over work just as well over [matrix]

>and it is miles easier to use than Discord No, it's not. With Discord you can just send them a link and have them join your chat / vc. They don't need to install an app, not do they need to make an account.

you need to use app to voice chat on discord, and need an account to use anything on discord

Re: Discord is a black hole for information

#158

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if you pay for nitro you can change your identity per server

Without nitro you can still nickname yourself.

People will still see the "server you're both in" and the game your currently playing, etc. Not good for work servers.

Re: Discord is a black hole for information

#160

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If you go to technical discords you’ll find that there’s someone joining almost everyday who asks a set of questions that was aksed the day before. These people annoy existing servers members and get angry replies because people are so tired of answering the same basic question multiple times a day. Some servers have created processes where you can only access the FAQ channel until you prove your knowledge, and only…

> If you go to technical discords you’ll find that there’s someone joining almost everyday who asks a set of questions that was aksed the day before. I've been in programming IRC channels since the late 90s. People asking the same questions as someone else asked the day before was the norm back then too. In fact, Discord is better than IRC in this regard, because it has history in the client. You can easily search wh…

You mean: is has history on the server?
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