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Wine bricks saved the U.S. wine industry during Prohibition (2015)

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Re: Wine bricks saved the U.S. wine industry during Prohibition (2015)

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There are a number of other examples... Like the companies selling whip cream chargers by the case of 600... You know, for the people that need to make whipped cream by the gallon at home.

Bakeries do exist and bulk orders do make sense for them.

Why would a bakery use nitrous oxide for whipped cream instead of the old fashioned way, actual whipping?

Re: Wine bricks saved the U.S. wine industry during Prohibition (2015)

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In germany beer homebrewing is limited at 200L/year (approx 50gallons, which is a respectable but not huge amount if you have friends). Anything above you have to pay taxes on. Those taxes however are pretty minor for a typical 20L batch, and customs are only allowed to investigate a case if they suspect a big enough discrepancy (I think 10€). So there's a group of petty homebrewers who don't make use of their free 2…

If it's just homebrewing / for personal, family / friends consumption, how would they even find out? A lot of laws are only there to enforce if they actually uncover a big operation. Like, during the 'rona lockdowns you weren't allowed to have more than X visitors, but no policeman would want to go door to door to see if people were having visitors. (actually don't quote me on it, the visitors thing may have been adv…

> but no policeman would want to go door to door to see if people were having visitors

And yet there are plenty of countries where this happened…

Re: Wine bricks saved the U.S. wine industry during Prohibition (2015)

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Ontario has a bunch of make-your-own wine companies that work like wine bricks. 1. you buy 5 gallons of grape juice for ~$20 per gallon. 2. yeast is dropped into your grape juice 3. you come to the store to decant your grape juice into wine bottles and cork them up. Since no alcohol is bought or sold, you avoid the (very high) taxes on liquor. You end up with ~28 bottles of wine for ~$4 per bottle. It's not the great…

DIY winemaking kits can actually make some pretty decent wines if you spend a bit of time and money getting proper equipment. Not a lot - $100 will get you a really, really good setup with two glass carboys for fermenting, siphons, thief and test jar, hydrometer, corker, etc. I've been making my own wines for years now. Occasionally I'll do a full from-scratch wine, but more often I buy a $40 kit from Midwest Supplie…

I would recommend avoiding glass carboys for fermenting. They are heavy, especially when filled, difficult to clean with their narrow mouths, and quite dangerous if they shatter when you accidentally drop them. (They're easy to drop while you're cleaning them and they're wet and slippery.) There are numerous accounts on home brewing forums of trips to the emergency room because a glass carboy broke and injured someone.

PET plastic fermenters (Better Bottle, FermZilla, Fermonster, etc.) are much nicer to work with.

Re: Wine bricks saved the U.S. wine industry during Prohibition (2015)

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Ontario has a bunch of make-your-own wine companies that work like wine bricks. 1. you buy 5 gallons of grape juice for ~$20 per gallon. 2. yeast is dropped into your grape juice 3. you come to the store to decant your grape juice into wine bottles and cork them up. Since no alcohol is bought or sold, you avoid the (very high) taxes on liquor. You end up with ~28 bottles of wine for ~$4 per bottle. It's not the great…

thankfully, here, we have Trader Joe's and their "3 buck chuck". the local Kroger store (Fred Meyer) also has $3 wine, but I think of that as "emergency wine" - the 3 buck chuck is much, much better. I have some questions though: 1. do they teach you about sanitization and airlocks, or is it simply "toss some yeast in this bottle" 2. I'm guessing no aging? it would be awesome if they allowed you to pop some in a barr…

I've done it as well with my parents, who love wine. At the shops I've been to, you buy the grape concentrate up front and they handle to process of making it up until bottling. Once the juice has fermented, you go in and they walk you through cleaning and sanitizing the bottles, filling them, corking them, and usually shrink-wrapping the tops. They provide all the supplies except the bottles themselves - customers bring their own, saved from buying wine the "normal" way.

Never seen a shop do ageing, so the wine will be noticeably "young". My parents like dryer and sharper white wines anyways (Pinot Grigio, Riesling, etc.) so it doesn't bother them. Also note that due to taxes and such, the cheapest wine you'll find commercially is C$11 a bottle, so even at C$20 / gallon you're getting a great deal if you like the resulting wines.

Personally, I quite like the wines my folks get through these shops - properly chilled they make a wonderfully refreshing beverage in the summer, and we'll often drink a few bottles on the back deck together when I go to see them.

Re: Wine bricks saved the U.S. wine industry during Prohibition (2015)

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The thing about human psychology is that if you tell someone not to do something, especially something that is not outright harmful to themselves or others, they will yearn to do it. The answer to alcoholism is to de-glamorize it. Young impressionable minds are susceptible to such glamorization. If governments around the world are seriously committed to reduce alcohol consumption, better shun it, rather than putting…

I wonder if they simply banned alcohol advertising what the effect would be. That was a big thing for tobacco in the 90s. I still remember “joe cool” the camel on the back of my parents magazines.

I still remember the jingle from the Camel ads on TV, which were outlawed in 1971.

Re: Wine bricks saved the U.S. wine industry during Prohibition (2015)

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DIY winemaking kits can actually make some pretty decent wines if you spend a bit of time and money getting proper equipment. Not a lot - $100 will get you a really, really good setup with two glass carboys for fermenting, siphons, thief and test jar, hydrometer, corker, etc. I've been making my own wines for years now. Occasionally I'll do a full from-scratch wine, but more often I buy a $40 kit from Midwest Supplie…

I would recommend avoiding glass carboys for fermenting. They are heavy, especially when filled, difficult to clean with their narrow mouths, and quite dangerous if they shatter when you accidentally drop them. (They're easy to drop while you're cleaning them and they're wet and slippery.) There are numerous accounts on home brewing forums of trips to the emergency room because a glass carboy broke and injured someon…

Using a covered plastic or wicker basket is an easy way to transport glass carboys, and should hopefully contain much of the shrapnel if you have the bad fortune to drop them.

Cleaning any bottle with a narrow neck is extra work, but you can get it done with a pipe cleaner, and it's best not to clean at an elevation or to do so in a deep basin.

These are things that come naturally after handling significant glassware for a period of time.

Re: Wine bricks saved the U.S. wine industry during Prohibition (2015)

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Or cryptography. It used to be illegal as well, right?

I have a tattoo of an encryption routine, partly as a protest. Unfortunately I changed it at the last minute to make it look cooler and introduced a bug. Here's the entire proper Perl 5 code: undef $/;print $ The buggy version is slightly shorter but I depended on an incorrect reading of some tricky wording in the docs and didn't test thoroughly enough. I'm considering turning the tattoo into a diff. I recommend Cryp…

I'd be afraid that a bug in Perl-- revealed years later-- might render my arm open to compromises. Some new fuzzing method comes around and all of a sudden my arm is unencrypted for all the world to access.

Re: Wine bricks saved the U.S. wine industry during Prohibition (2015)

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Til you can get 20% out of fermentation, I always thought the limit was about 16 since that’s the top end for beer and wine. Is it because starch yeasts can keep on keeping further than glucose ones?

It's the yeast strains. Some can survive higher alcohol concentrations than others. For instance this[1] one can achieve up to 25% under right conditions. [1] https://www.whitelabs.com/yeast-single?id=146&type=YEAST&sty... No yeast can digest starches afaik. It's why you need a mashing phase to turn starches into simpler sugars when brewing beer.

I've heard that can be pretty harsh, though I'd be curious to know how it might fair with a little bit of aging, say 6-12 months. It requires a bit more handholding of the batch as well, but there are turbo yeasts that will get to ~14% in 24-48 hours.

I've also come across "triple distilled" turbo yeast that's supposed to be less harsh but not as high ABV.

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