A better headline: "Fake vaccines are everywhere"
Fake vaccine cards are everywhere. It’s a public health nightmare
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Re: Fake vaccine cards are everywhere. It’s a public health nightmare
#152Earlier quoted context omitted.
Have you even considered that this is what many people who have not taken the vaccine are waiting for? They are going to go get the vaccine when this deadly strains comes out. It is no secret MRNA vaccines do not last. It was known before COVID and no miraculous break through occurred that fixed this this issue they have. Previous MRNA vaccines applicants also showed you cannot just keep reinjecting yourself every x…
> Previous MRNA [sic] vaccines applicants also showed you cannot just keep reinjecting yourself every x months. > So its seems the people not vaccinated will have an option to actually get protected, not so much for those that have taken it already though. This is utter hogwash horseshit. Let me guess. You watch InfoWars, OAN, and Fox News. You need some better "alternative facts" that include how long vaccines take…
Glad you have to resort to person attacks and then quote an article backing up my point you can't constantly be giving boosters out.
I never said there wasn't a good strategy but rather than doing it x month was bad which in fact it is. You however had to make something up so you can launch your personal attack.
Please review the guidelines and rules before you type more utter hogwash horseshit https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
Re: Fake vaccine cards are everywhere. It’s a public health nightmare
#153Earlier quoted context omitted.
Where is the anger directed, exactly? On r/nursing, the general consensus is that practically nobody who's vaccinated and boosted is actually dying, unless they have a lot of other stuff going on: https://www.reddit.com/r/nursing/comments/s5p4g1/how_many_fu... It seems disingenuous to call the vaccine a "damn joke".
Reddit is your source? Cmon… Ontario Canada breaks down deaths by vaccination status, which is currently close to 50/50 on a daily basis. Please stop believing anything on Reddit.
OK, so what you're suggesting is that the thread is full of liars, or is shaped by propaganda. I call BS. First-hand accounts are important.
Also, where are you getting your information from? This is what I could find from a quick search, and it shows unvaccinated deaths 8x higher than fully vaccinated: https://www.statista.com/statistics/1257040/number-covid-dea...
There's https://www.publichealthontario.ca, but I can't find any comparison between vaccinated and unvaccinated deaths.
Re: Fake vaccine cards are everywhere. It’s a public health nightmare
#154Earlier quoted context omitted.
Ahh yes, because I am critical of Fauci, masking, and the politicization of the vaccines…all sacred dogma to the left, I am a conservative trumpie. This smacks of a “believe exactly what my church believes or you are going to hell you evil sinner” Zealotry at its finest. As for your comments about the deaths attributed to omicron… post some statistics. Because what you are saying here doesn’t jive with what I am read…
It's not dogma. You post factually incorrect 'opinions' pushed by the right. You think 'cloth masks are useless', while science disagrees. A decently fitted cloth mask is far more effective then nothing, but not as effective as a surgical mask, which is not as effective as as N95. As for the death rates 'doesn’t jive with what I am reading', what the heck are you reading? Even the Fox News owned Wall Street Journal r…
I guess I shouldn’t be surprised that someone who seems to think of politics in black and white terms would glob on to a single quote of mine from a couple of weeks ago, quote only half of it completely out of context to the discussion it was in and then use it to make assumptions about the rest of my political leanings.
For what it’s worth here is the quote in its entirety. If you read the parent thread it was speaking to cloth vs N95 efficacy:
“Personally I think cloth masks are worthless for anything but the most casual exposure to the virus, and then for it to maintain any reasonable protective effect, you would need to remove and dispose of the mask as those luckily trapped virus particles can dislodge and infect. Continuing to wear a cloth mask that has accumulated virus particles in it just turns a chance casual exposure into a long term one.”
Now, explain how that opinion is in conflict with this CDC mask guidance which is less than one week old:
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/prevent-getting-si...
Here’s the NYT reporting on the change in CDC masking guidance:
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/14/health/cloth-masks-covid-...
Here is WebMD making the argument against against cloth masks due to their lack of efficacy:
https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/20211229/cloth-masks-vs-surg...
Or this lovely gem from the CDC which basically tells me that, because of my choice of facial hair, pretty much all masks short of a space suit are worthless:
https://www.cdc.gov/niosh/npptl/pdfs/facialhairwmask11282017...
If you are going to assume my quote about the worthlessness of cloth masks makes me a conservative trumpie, then you better stop listening to the CDC, stop reading the NYT, maybe boycott WebMD for good measure too. Damn right wing organizations, them.
Also not that it matters, but in terms of public figures, my politics are probably closest to Bill Maher. If you think he is conservative or a Trumpie, well…I suspect anyone short of Bernie Sanders or AOC fails your acid test.
Re: Fake vaccine cards are everywhere. It’s a public health nightmare
#155Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's not dogma. You post factually incorrect 'opinions' pushed by the right. You think 'cloth masks are useless', while science disagrees. A decently fitted cloth mask is far more effective then nothing, but not as effective as a surgical mask, which is not as effective as as N95. As for the death rates 'doesn’t jive with what I am reading', what the heck are you reading? Even the Fox News owned Wall Street Journal r…
I guess I shouldn’t be surprised that someone who seems to think of politics in black and white terms would glob on to a single quote of mine from a couple of weeks ago, quote only half of it completely out of context to the discussion it was in and then use it to make assumptions about the rest of my political leanings. For what it’s worth here is the quote in its entirety. If you read the parent thread it was speak…
Each time you only respond to 1/2 of what I point out. No defense of your climate change comments, conveniently leaving those out of the grandparent reply. No mention here of the fact that you were wrong about Omicron stats and death rates and wouldn't reveal what sources you use that don't 'jive' with the official statistics.
And yes, the NY Times headline "C.D.C. concedes that cloth masks do not protect against the virus as effectively as other masks" is exactly what I just posted above. We know that. We've known that. And I'll post the exact same thing again. A well fitting cloth mask is far better than nothing but less than a surgical mask which is less than an N95. It's not worthless.
Re: Fake vaccine cards are everywhere. It’s a public health nightmare
#156Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's not dogma. You post factually incorrect 'opinions' pushed by the right. You think 'cloth masks are useless', while science disagrees. A decently fitted cloth mask is far more effective then nothing, but not as effective as a surgical mask, which is not as effective as as N95. As for the death rates 'doesn’t jive with what I am reading', what the heck are you reading? Even the Fox News owned Wall Street Journal r…
I guess I shouldn’t be surprised that someone who seems to think of politics in black and white terms would glob on to a single quote of mine from a couple of weeks ago, quote only half of it completely out of context to the discussion it was in and then use it to make assumptions about the rest of my political leanings. For what it’s worth here is the quote in its entirety. If you read the parent thread it was speak…
Oh my Goodness…You have exposed me. Yes, I am secretly a conservative whose master plan for conservative domination involves voting for zero republicans for the last 4 decades, contributing financially and physically to liberal causes, supporting liberal politicians, railing against intolerant religious bigots for decades, supporting gay marriage and rights years and years before the Democratic Party did, and my public stance against the death penalty while being secretly glad with every criminal that the state executes.
Damn…40 years of undercover work wasted.
Re: Fake vaccine cards are everywhere. It’s a public health nightmare
#157Earlier quoted context omitted.
>The China ban was viewed as a second Muslim ban. ...which was also misrepresented in the media. They literally used the same countries the Obama Administration had put on their list with the Visa Waiver Program Improvement and Terrorist Travel Prevention Act of 2015.[1] Also, the majority of countries on the list weren't Muslim, and the majority of Muslim countries weren't on the list. [1] https://townhall.com/tipsh…
The list of countries was less important the the universal nature of the Muslim ban. It was kind of the opposite of the China ban. When it comes to disease, we need to act decisively and universally with care not create loopholes that allow people to pass through. When we are talking about terrorism, banning an entire country doesn't make sense. There has to be some type of vetting for exceptions. The Muslim ban incl…
>There is no logic to a ban of that scale when it comes to preventing terrorism.
Sure there is, it was specifically related the inability of the countries on their list to demonstrate proper port/airport screening & security. The reason most Muslim countries weren't on the list is because most Muslim countries took security seriously enough. This is also why the non-Muslim countries that were on the list were on there.
Re: Fake vaccine cards are everywhere. It’s a public health nightmare
#158Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Americans don't want to use ID even for voting *many liberal Americans
Pretty sure the US doesn't have an official federal-issued ID, and most of the time driving license works as such. And it seems this applies to the majority of Anglosphere countries. Here in Poland we have a compulsory IDs, which for over 20 years now are plastic. Recently RFID tags and finger prints were added; there's also a standard biometric photo of face. All of this comes also with electronic and qualified elec…
A passport is probably the most common ID issued by a federal government entity (Department of State) in the US.
A military ID is a also federal document (Department of Defense) but that only applies to a certain subset of the population.
Re: Fake vaccine cards are everywhere. It’s a public health nightmare
#159Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Previous MRNA [sic] vaccines applicants also showed you cannot just keep reinjecting yourself every x months. > So its seems the people not vaccinated will have an option to actually get protected, not so much for those that have taken it already though. This is utter hogwash horseshit. Let me guess. You watch InfoWars, OAN, and Fox News. You need some better "alternative facts" that include how long vaccines take…
Glad you have to resort to person attacks and then quote an article backing up my point you can't constantly be giving boosters out. I never said there wasn't a good strategy but rather than doing it x month was bad which in fact it is. You however had to make something up so you can launch your personal attack. Please review the guidelines and rules before you type more utter hogwash horseshit https://news.ycombinat…
Contribute value or leave. Have a nice day.
Re: Fake vaccine cards are everywhere. It’s a public health nightmare
#160Earlier quoted context omitted.
Reddit is your source? Cmon… Ontario Canada breaks down deaths by vaccination status, which is currently close to 50/50 on a daily basis. Please stop believing anything on Reddit.
OK, so what you're suggesting is that the thread is full of liars, or is shaped by propaganda. I call BS. First-hand accounts are important. Also, where are you getting your information from? This is what I could find from a quick search, and it shows unvaccinated deaths 8x higher than fully vaccinated: https://www.statista.com/statistics/1257040/number-covid-dea... There's https://www.publichealthontario.ca , but I…
Sorry for taking long to respond.
I do not believe the thread is full of liars or propaganda, although there is probably some, but I do believe many many people are ill informed and regurgitating headlines they read.
https://www.publichealthontario.ca/-/media/documents/ncov/ep...
Page 16 shows deaths by vaccination status in the last 60 days.