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The Great Resignation? More Like the Great Renegotiation

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Re: The Great Resignation? More Like the Great Renegotiation

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What's the antidote? There can be new names for anything, but it's hard to get them to stick.

While I agree with you about the race issue, I do not think the idea of leftist ideology applies here as both sides are opportunistic such as your analogy.

I think my own question is something of a trap; in order to answer it, Americans would need a single, definable culture, and just about half of us have one. Just ask the right half.

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A 1% raise seems insulting imo.

It is

I started at a company in mid January, and they did annual reviews in June/July. After review, I 'merited' a 4% raise. But... because I'd only been there since January, they prorated the 4% raise to 2%. I never quite understood their logic, but also didn't stay through the end of the year.

EDIT: this was... 2004/2005 era.

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Anecdotally I know several people who retired in the last couple of years. One who had been working past their planned retirement date but had been coasting on inertia and a few who moved their timeline up to retire a little early. (Though some of them still seem to do part-time consulting.) Apparently there are also fewer immigrant workers due to immigration changes during the Trump administration and the pandemic.[1]

It’s not surprising that a shrinking labor force (relative to demand) causes ripple effects. As good positions open up it triggers a musical chairs cascade as everyone else trades up for better jobs. When the music stops it seems pretty obvious that the lowest-paid and/or worst jobs are the ones that will be empty.

[1] https://www.npr.org/2021/12/22/1063104262/immigrant-workers-...

Re: The Great Resignation? More Like the Great Renegotiation

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What's up with all the language games lately? "Defund the police". No no, we don't actually mean defund the police... "Anti work". No no, we don't actually mean we're anti work...

In both of these cases "we" is a group of thousands of people with varying opinions. There are absolutely plenty of people who very much believe in defunding the police and ending work. As both movements have grown more popular we've naturally seen more people who agree with the general spirit of the movement but hold more moderate views.

If someone doesn’t want to defund the police then I don’t see how they can “agree with the general spirit” unless they want to defund the police. It’s in the name. You can equivocate about anything else but not that. Same for anti-work.

I suppose you identified the potential problem here: people inferring that “defund the police” doesn’t actually mean “defund the police” and ascribing softer, feel-good intentions which aren’t there.

Re: The Great Resignation? More Like the Great Renegotiation

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What's up with all the language games lately? "Defund the police". No no, we don't actually mean defund the police... "Anti work". No no, we don't actually mean we're anti work...

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An additional and worthwhile addition: Black Lives Matter.

The movement was never ONLY Black Lives Matter, or Cops Lives Don't Matter, or any of the other ways various opponents have decided to interpret the name to justify ignoring the societal criticisms of the protests.

Truth is, words are tough, and the more complex and nuanced a topic gets to be, the more a pity simple phrase or title become impossible to be accurate. Additionally, being provocative has its uses, especially in the early awareness stages of a movement.

Re: The Great Resignation? More Like the Great Renegotiation

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> "Yet, despite all the quitting and renegotiating, the real wage for the average American worker — meaning the true value of their paycheck after taking into account inflation — fell by 2.4% in 2021." Because most are still not moving. If a worker won't leave under these conditions, there is no reason to ever give them a raise as you don't need it to retain them.

Should it be the worker's duty to constantly be searching for better opportunities and interviewing for new jobs while working - or the employer's duty to provide reasonable CoL raises so employees aren't driven away from the company?

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What's up with all the language games lately? "Defund the police". No no, we don't actually mean defund the police... "Anti work". No no, we don't actually mean we're anti work...

That’s been a thing forever. See also: “states’ rights”, “small government”, “personal responsibility”, none of which actually mean what they say on the label.

The difference here is that the slogans you listed are usually euphemisms for something more insidious. Anti-work and defund the police are the exact opposite—deliberately inflammatory slogans that exaggerate (if not outright contradict) their underlying movements.

The former just seem like good politics: "states' rights" allowed slave owners to court people who were worried about "big government" while conveniently ignoring the grave injustice that's actually occurring. The latter seems like good twitter politics; it'll get good engagement for being so inflammatory, but at the end of the day, most people don't actually agree.

Re: The Great Resignation? More Like the Great Renegotiation

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It feels fundamentally wrong that my employer cares at all about where I live when determining my 100% remote salary. Can anyone offer me rational arguments for why they shouldn’t just pay people based on what they offer the job rather than where they choose to live? Because it makes me salty to be paid half of what a colleague does because I’m in rural Canada and not San Francisco.

I think it comes down to an ability for a company to recruit. They can't recruit someone in SF with a salary based on rural Canada's cost of living. The justification is that it's in the company's best interest to reduce costs as much as it's in yours to get top dollar.

A somewhat parallel example is whenever someone tries getting a car repaired or plumbing work done. They may all charge their own flat rate for labor but they almost always exorbitantly overcharge for parts. Why? Because if everyone else does it, they can too. It's money on the table they would be missing out on otherwise. It's an infuriating situation (I was charged $30 for 2 $4 gaskets on my repair yesterday) but it's a pattern that's been quite commonplace.

Re: The Great Resignation? More Like the Great Renegotiation

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I actually support masks in schools. There's solid scientific evidence backing it as a mechanism to help limit the spread of COVID. Until all ages are able to be vaccinated, it seems like a prudent course of action. It's unfortunate that people are trying to turn such things into political statements.

> limit the spread of COVID I think it can be claimed that it limits the rate of spread, not total spread/infections.

Think logically about what you just wrote... Masks can and do in fact limit the total spread/infections.
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