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Charm – Tools to make the command line glamorous
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Re: Charm – Tools to make the command line glamorous
#152I love the general renaissance of terminal UI tools we are seeing in the last few years. I can't quite put my finger on what I like about it so much. Something to do with the simplicity and directness of these UIs, guaranteed optimised for efficient keyboard nav, widespread adoption of vim-like navigation keys, and the fact that they link directly with my terminal shell so I can stay entirely in a stream of thought w…
> I do wish it was easier to select text from the terminal screen without using the mouse. Check out TMUX. TMUX has a copy mode that can be used to navigate the scrollback buffer for any TMUX window/pane and select and copy text. By default, that text is copied to a TMUX paste buffer, but can be copied to the system buffer using a simple command (e.g., `tmux show-buffer | pbcopy` on macOS or `tmux show-buffer | xsel…
This kind of copy and paste is a bummer though since it isn’t aware of word wrapping.
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#153For a command line library, this site is really fun and well put together.
I upvoted for the web design...
But as always there are already people in the thread dismissing it as obnoxious, pointless and unnecessary :) (and comparing it to Amazon's homepage, as if it was a consumer facing e-commerce site with a critical need for mass user retention from the first page load. Another person called it a red flag and highly suspicious)
It's very difficult to please HN when it comes to design, and usually the best design here is no design at all. If as a web designer you can't express yourself even for non-critical and lighthearted landing and showcase pages like these, the amount of outlets available to exercise your creativity becomes very narrow. I can't help but feel that in the eyes of this forum it's a pointless endeavour and not worth aspiring for.
Re: Charm – Tools to make the command line glamorous
#154I feel like this is kind of missing the main goal of command-line apps being string-in/string-out. With modal text dialogs, you can’t awk/grep/sed your way through automations anymore. And is it really easier to code than a real GUI?
The SSH angle is neat though. It works much better then vnc/parsec at lower bandwidths.
Re: Charm – Tools to make the command line glamorous
#155I love the general renaissance of terminal UI tools we are seeing in the last few years. I can't quite put my finger on what I like about it so much. Something to do with the simplicity and directness of these UIs, guaranteed optimised for efficient keyboard nav, widespread adoption of vim-like navigation keys, and the fact that they link directly with my terminal shell so I can stay entirely in a stream of thought w…
> I can't quite put my finger on what I like about it so much. I can. Doesn't require a 1.5GB build directory to make a 500MB binary that uses 3GB of RAM to display a chat client/music player/etc.
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Re: Charm – Tools to make the command line glamorous
#156Earlier quoted context omitted.
Oh, do I have a terminal emulator to sell you: https://hyper.is/ > Hyper is an Electron-based terminal
I mean Hyper is really just an IDE that's REPL focused and so it makes as much sense to be in Electron as VSCode.
It makes ALOT of sense that vscode is written in electron. Why would you think otherwise?
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#157Earlier quoted context omitted.
Everything there is worded so that sysadmins and devops kind of persons will love it. All the product names are cute and innocuous. This is a huge red flag and the entire operation is highly suspicious.
What do you suspect they are doing?
Supply chain attacks?
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#158Color Scheme hurts my eyes.
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#159I wrote a side scrolling beat-em up in the terminal ("telnet exploit.courses"). Charm seems to have identified all the pain points, the Charm backend with KV store and user authentication would be something i'd need to implement multiplayer functionality. Gonna play with this stuff for sure.
Love the website!
Re: Charm – Tools to make the command line glamorous
#160I love Charm; doing `ssh git.charm.sh` is a lot of fun and really sparks the imagination about SSH apps. They also have usable solutions for auth and storage, which like, if you're thinking of writing something like this are the first things you'd start reaching for. They also work hard to enable you to run all your own services, so you don't rely on the Charm cloud for everything. Definitely a good model for future…
The dynamic intuitive interface provided by `ssh git.charm.sh` is a wonderful example of how text-based user interfaces do not need to be limited to REPL. I wonder if there is space for a new text-based web browser that adopts some of the design features showcased by Charm.
It surely is impressively well made. I am wondering though whether Charm actually qualifies as a text-based interface. Isn't it more like a replication of a graphical user interface, with windows and tabs etc.? If one's issues with working on the command line has always been that there are no "drawn" windows GUI elements, then this of course is a revelation, but we already have high-res versions of Charm, i.e. modern windows-based OSs.