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Welcome to Waifu Labs v2: How Do AIs Create?

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Re: Welcome to Waifu Labs v2: How Do AIs Create?

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I would like to see how it generates late-80s/early-90s style features. The current pool of anime art styles are very generic (aside stylistic outliers) and I'd love to see Cowboy Bebop/Akira/Bubblegum Crisis type character designs

Miyazaki's style of character design and fantasy would be amazing.

I'd be curious if such a GAN could actually beat Oda at generating new One Piece characters. 20 years into it he just doesn't seem to stop at creating hilarious characters.

Re: Welcome to Waifu Labs v2: How Do AIs Create?

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Sure, but I see no reason to not treat things like GPT-3 and TWDNE as evidence. If it looks like a creativity, and quacks like a creativity, then we should at least entertain the notion that we have a small artistic process on our hands.

Of course we can entertain the notion. We just shouldn't pretend the question is settled one way or the other like the two comments above and pointlessly argue about it on hn. Personally I'm inclined to see things like GPT-3 as qualitatively different to human creativity, but I don't claim to know this for a fact.

Well, but also, if you think that GPT or TWDNE are different from creativity, when they look similar to creativity on the face of it, I do think it's not enough to say "well I think it's a different thing", you should actually put out there where you think that human creativity materially diverges from the output of an ANN.

I just think there's a lot of people arguing "well this can't be creativity" out of some sort of anti-AI signalling sentiment, where they've become so used to disagreeing with unwarranted AI optimism that they undervalue AI progress routinely. In other words, "this can't be creativity, because we don't understand creativity" or "this can't be creativity because AI is very far from human-level" or such.

(Personally, I believe GPT-3 and CLIP are already superhuman; that is, superior to the circuitry in the brain doing the equivalent job. They only look weak because we're trying to make them do all of the job in one step, when we're comparing them to the brain's highly heterogenous self-correcting approach.)

Re: Welcome to Waifu Labs v2: How Do AIs Create?

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Fascinating... Thanks for sharing A couple questions: 1) I didn't really understand how you went about identifying what vectors of the latent space stand for various things, like pose or color. Did you train one of the AIs to that effect, or did you manually inspect a bunch of vectors, twiddling through them one by one, did to the outcome? 2) If one were to train an AI to the same level using commodity cloud services…

1) It was mostly manual, though AIs were useful in certain filtering tasks. 2) Depends on the quality you are seeking. If you only want one run of a similar, off-the-shelf model, around the 1000s is enough. But at the number of iterations you have to run to build your own and improve results, you probably need about 100k. To tackle this problem, we built our own supercomputer off of parts we bought off of ebay, thoug…

I think that requires one more blog post.

Re: Welcome to Waifu Labs v2: How Do AIs Create?

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I'm guessing your referring to the "one of a kind" part of NFTs, which made me wonder, how would they validate that the created Waifu hasn't been created before? The question is, would people buy, since there are near endless, and a huge difference is that these don't have a story attached to them...

> I'm guessing your referring to the "one of a kind" part of NFTs, which made me wonder, how would they validate that the created Waifu hasn't been created before? Oh, not even that, since while some data ends up on the blockchain, i find the whole ownership concept a bit nebulous at best, much like how people mock the whole "oh, just right click the image to save it" thing. What i was actually referring to was more…

Not to get too deep into NFTs as I to aren't an expert, but from what I understand the images that are used in NFTs are hosted on from a server and the owner of the NFT doesn't own the server, thus do they really own the image?

I too like to collect things, my latest obsession was lingerie. But I always have the image of extreme hoarders in the back of my mind, which quite often scares me out of collecting to much.

I'm not scared of having too much stuff, I'm scared of not being able to notice it myself.

NFTs could ease that problem. But sadly I'm one of those people that prefer analog radio over digital. Wired over wireless.

Re: Welcome to Waifu Labs v2: How Do AIs Create?

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I'm guessing your referring to the "one of a kind" part of NFTs, which made me wonder, how would they validate that the created Waifu hasn't been created before? The question is, would people buy, since there are near endless, and a huge difference is that these don't have a story attached to them...

Probably for it to work you would have to limit them and have a set of hand selected images. Seemingly people will buy anything if you can hype it enough.

I guess you could limit it with a colour palette and that way give yourself an option to bring special colour palette images in the future, for special events or occasions.

Re: Welcome to Waifu Labs v2: How Do AIs Create?

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Hey HN, one of the team members here! I hope you all enjoy playing with the new and improved generator! We've been hard at work improving the model quality since the last time the site was posted[1] As both a professional fantasy illustrator & software engineer, I find the concept of AI creativity so fascinating. On one hand, I know that mathematically AI only can hallucinate images that fit within the distribution o…

I wonder what an AI trained to spot deepfake Waifu's will detect. In humans, things like the pupil can be the give away. https://www.newscientist.com/article/2289815-ai-can-detect-a...

This is a super interesting question, given that the generator model is trained to fool the discriminator, which is also an AI.

Re: Welcome to Waifu Labs v2: How Do AIs Create?

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This is extremely impressive. It’s the first GAN I have seen which lets you tweak the result in a meaningful way rather than being just random. I think the speed that GANs have come in to the world has really shaken people up and it’s hard to process what this all means and what it will result in. Especially the ones which generate based on real people. But the feeling this gives me, is what happens for the future of…

Art isn't about statical copying or drawing well. It's about human expression.

It doesn't seem far fetched that in the near future an "artist" doesn't need to be able to draw at all. If GANs or the like become sufficiently tunable, I can express myself by telling the GAN what I would like to have drawn.
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