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I Built a Shed (2020)

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Re: I Built a Shed (2020)

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Not that anything about this shed is built to code, but this takes the cake: > PRO TIP Use screws for everything; if you mess up, remove the screws and redo it; with nails, it’s a lot harder to do that. You absolutely should not do this for framing, and most building codes specify the type and size of nails that you must use when fastening load-bearing structural components. Screws are convenient, sure, but they are…

I was going to post about code violations but I’ll just tuck it under yours here so we don’t flood the top level (although one could argue that this really deserves it). I had to stop reading r/diy because half the stuff in there made me angry. Especially people building lofts to store heavy stuff without knowing anything about construction. You can’t overlap rooflines like this. That’s how they allow people to build…

Ignoring the type of conduit, there’s NM-B and CM (hopefully) in the same conduit.

NM-B is not allowed outdoors (in “wet locations”) [0], and running your Ethernet cable and your power in the same conduit is no good. (Look up the code for feeders supplying structures — this is not even close to how it’s done. Maybe you can squeak by and consider this a structure supplied by a branch circuit, but there are still code requirements to pay attention to.)

Also, that weather resistant barrier…. Imagine you are a drop of rainwater on the outside of that WRB, following gravity. Where do you go? Straight to the exposed OSB sticking out at the bottom. The sheathing is toast in heavy rain.

[0] NM-B has paper running through it. Good old-fashioned water-wicking brown paper. If it gets a bit wet in a flooded conduit (hint: every outdoor conduit can be assumed to flood eventually), it will wick along the cable and never dry.

edit: there is absolutely no requirement that buried conduit be metal. In my experience, despite code allowing various types of galvanized steel conduit to be buried, they tend to corrode severely long before whatever wires are in them are safely disconnected, creating a hazardous situation. You can use PVC, HDPE, etc.

Re: I Built a Shed (2020)

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Are you able to elaborate? Do you mean in the article or in the comments?

allthe "this is not to code" comments i guess

Municipal codes are written in blood. Little of the feedback I am seeing is negative about the trivial details.

Re: I Built a Shed (2020)

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You just went from concerned citizen, to person with anger management issues lashing out. If your thoughts here were in good faith, you would help the author learn about code compliance so that he could make the necessary modifications and learn about the real-world consequences of not being in compliance. Instead you're making a threat to send code enforcement after him so that he can be punished for being ignorant.…

The punishment for building code violations is death. The building code enforcement is a lot more lenient in comparison.

Also, the punishment isn’t necessarily meted out on the actual perpetrator.

Re: I Built a Shed (2020)

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Are you able to elaborate? Do you mean in the article or in the comments?

allthe "this is not to code" comments i guess

Bikeshedding is arguing about stuff that doesn't matter (ex: color). Pointing out that something is built dangerously is not bikeshedding.

Re: I Built a Shed (2020)

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This still doesn’t explain why overlapping rooflines are actually problematic, though. I have always wondered this myself, as I actually own a house with a detached garage where the previous owner and next door neighbor put an easement on file that allowed the next door neighbor (whose ground level is about 5 feet higher via a retaining wall) to build an outbuilding very close to the property line with the roofline h…

It’s a “this is why we can’t have nice things” situation. There’s no physics problem with overlapping that I know of, but it’s a giant loophole for people who are up to no good. It’s not so much that you shouldn’t be able to do it as that there’s no way we can do it without a permit.

The water management issue is a bigger deal in some locations.

In the original post, he's sloped the new roof back towards the house - huge issue where I live (Atlanta - we got a lot of heavy rain) since that's going to cause water entry in the basement or erosion on the foundation.

It can also be a fire hazard in many situations. Ex - in my area there's a mandated 10ft gap between the property line and any structure. It's there to prevent people from building right up to the property line, essentially creating townhomes, but with none of the fire/safety planning those require.

All that said - I agree with you, this code is likely there to discourage people trying to skirt around inspections (and because it's easy to spot).

Re: I Built a Shed (2020)

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So basically there was no dedicated room inside the house for WFH before? When you use your shed, what are the aspects that you came to value? E.g. is it more about the feeling of nature (because the garden is much closer) or is it more about the sound-separation from the rest of the home? Or would you be as happy with a dedicated room within your house?

> So basically there was no dedicated room inside the house for WFH before? I was previously working from our bedroom. The main downside was if I wanted to start working while my wife was still asleep. > When you use your shed, what are the aspects that you came to value? E.g. is it more about the feeling of nature (because the garden is much closer) or is it more about the sound-separation from the rest of the home?…

Interesting. Thanks for sharing your experiences. Did you do extra-preparation on the extra room that is now available to you? E.g. foaming walls or door to have the same level of sound separation?

Which direction of sound separation is more important to you, incoming sound (not being disturbed) or outgoing sound (not disturbing sleeping people with your work)?

Re: I Built a Shed (2020)

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The simple answer is testing. When you go to school you get a test that certifies you have a basic knowledge. It may not cover every aspect but will teach you where to find the answers you don’t know.

Oh? School for what? Maybe general contracting? A while back I looked briefly into what it would take to be an electrician, and it seemed like there was quite a lot to know. I wonder how soon you get to the stage where you could wire up a shed like this with full confidence that you've done everything to code. From there, how many other subjects do you have to get right? I learned how to swing a hammer as a kid but I…

Electrical is a whole field of expertise. To wire a shed to code however is not that hard. I’ve done my dad’s tiny home personally and then had my electrician friend come in after and said it was all done and to code. Some of the skills overlap but usually the carpenters do the work and at a certain point the electrician comes in and does all his work then the carpenter finish up. The real secret to getting fully comfortable is doing an apprenticeship where someone is going over all your work.

Re: I Built a Shed (2020)

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Not that anything about this shed is built to code, but this takes the cake: > PRO TIP Use screws for everything; if you mess up, remove the screws and redo it; with nails, it’s a lot harder to do that. You absolutely should not do this for framing, and most building codes specify the type and size of nails that you must use when fastening load-bearing structural components. Screws are convenient, sure, but they are…

To support your point: if you are a DIYer who is not super cost sensitive, for example if you have a tech job, then I highly recommend structural screws. (I quite like GRK RSS fasteners.) It requires more research than you might think to find screws that are properly rated, but it is much more fun to do small projects with an impact driver than a nail gun or hammer.
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