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If a seatbelt doest stop you from dying in 100% of car crashes, I don't understand why they're mandatory?
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#152In other festive COVID news from Canada: >Canada's Justin Trudeau on the unvaccinated: >“They don’t believe in science/progress and are very often misogynistic and racist....This leads us, as a leader and as a country, to make a choice: Do we tolerate these people?" https://twitter.com/KevinBardosh/status/1476838517007257600 My patience with COVID cultists is starting to run quite thin.
There is no science if doubts aren’t allowed.
There is no science if the facts are not allowed either.
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#153Lots of people in this thread are arguing the "do the vaccines reduce spread thing" as justification for or against this policy. I don't think that even matters.
These vaccines have risks that are not being opening discussed. There is an unprecedented systematic campaign of censorship, deception and propaganda aimed at people who question anything about these vaccines. Vaccine injuries are real. The performance of these vaccines are not meeting expectations. They should not be mandated, full stop. We need a system based on informed consent, not coercion.
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#155It seems we are heading in a direction where those who don't take the jab will be blocked from receiving government services, prevented from patronizing various businesses, and even restricted from traveling and the ability to work. Are most citizens really okay with this medical apartheid, or are they afraid of speaking out against it?
apartheid was a racist policy that discriminated against people based on their skin color… you’re comparing this to mandating a vaccine that dramatically reduces the hospitalization rate during an international pandemic that has killed more than 5 million people in 2 years
> dramatically reduces the hospitalization rate
When administered to the at risk population. When required for young, hospitalization system impact would be marginal.
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so tiring to see vaccinated people not understanding the science and the fact that they transmit the virus just as well. low information comments.
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#157It seems we are heading in a direction where those who don't take the jab will be blocked from receiving government services, prevented from patronizing various businesses, and even restricted from traveling and the ability to work. Are most citizens really okay with this medical apartheid, or are they afraid of speaking out against it?
I work for a major news organization in the US and am willing to lose my highly paid job to assert my rights. I desperately urge others who are also capable to take such a hit to follow suit. Edit: Note, I'm also vaccinated. J&J March 2020.
Could you elaborate a bit on what right you are asserting? I don't think I'm alone in not understanding what right you are fighting for. You're asking me to take a stand without telling me what I'm taking a stand for.
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#158Earlier quoted context omitted.
If a seatbelt doest stop you from dying in 100% of car crashes, I don't understand why they're mandatory?
> If a seatbelt doest stop you from dying in 100% of car crashes, I don't understand why they're mandatory? Interestingly, your comparison is relevant, but you are responding to an argument which I don't think is being made. The OP is _not_ arguing that vaccines shouldn't be mandatory because they aren't 100% effective. On the contrary, the OP's argument is that since vaccines are relatively effective, one person's c…
If some group of the population is responsible for 85 to 90% of the spread of a disease, then they are directly harming also all the other people who can't be vaccinated for health reasons, they are helping the virus spread and mutate more often to promote new variants that the vaccinated people might not be resistant to, and they thus are the main reason why we still need to have measures in most countries to limit the spread.
If you're not seriously doing your part, then you are actively supporting the virus and working against all the rest of the population that is either unable to get critical care or just tirelessly working in the healthcare sector treating all those avoidable critical patients.
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#159It seems we are heading in a direction where those who don't take the jab will be blocked from receiving government services, prevented from patronizing various businesses, and even restricted from traveling and the ability to work. Are most citizens really okay with this medical apartheid, or are they afraid of speaking out against it?
> blocked from receiving government services
Quite the hyperbole: not all government services, just employment insurance and that too if you were only fired for not receiving the vaccine. A reminder that in many of these jobs, there was already a requirement for getting a set of vaccines so this is not new. Though for some people, this vaccine is "different" but once you ask them to explain why they can't. So no new rules. You needed vaccines for most of the jobs and this just an additional one.
You will still receive employment insurance for other stuff, irrespective of your vaccination status.
> prevented from patronizing various businesses
You are not prevented from accessing essential businesses and no one checks your vaccination status or even asks for one.
> even restricted from traveling and the ability to work
You are still free to drive to work or take local public transit.
The difference between ICU rates of unvaccinated and vaccinated people in Ontario for example tells us that the vaccination is working:
https://covid19-sciencetable.ca/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/2...
^ Please see the above graph.
If you cannot participate in society moving forward, then you should not expect society to cater to your needs.