I feel like I'm alone in this, but I don't like mushrooms. I usually have unpleasant body effects, and I don't like the trip generally. I'm fairly confident in my ability to have dosed as responsibly as possible with a biological product. Usually, though, I just feel weird and uncomfortable for 10. LSD, by comparison, is positively therapeutic for me.
Shrooms: What You Need to Know
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I've written in-depth about that particular experience before on here, if you're interested here are the post links: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22991744 (See chain of replies too) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22993060 Short-term side effects were acute + severe panic attacks, triggered by flashbacks and feeling as though I was physically back in the same situation/it was starting to happen again. Ev…
Interesting. When I was 15.5 I took a couple tabs of what I thought were LSD. Given the extended duration, it was probably a research chemical, but it was on blotter(NBOMe? it was 1991) so it was a potent one. My friend took 5 tabs and started throwing up, which we never experienced with LSD. After nearly 24 hours of tripping I was left with years of panic attacks and HPPD. Walls breathing, textures enhanced, increas…
The only thing I've ever taken + know of with even remotely a 24-hour duration is the "DOx" series, like "DOM", and "DOI", etc.
I felt like I had been dragged through hell and back after the time I willingly + knowingly took a single dose of DOI. No idea who thinks 24 hours awake tripping is a good time.
https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/DOx
https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/DOM
https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/DOI
NBOMe wasn't discovered until 2003, and not popularized/available until ~2010. I've done my fair share of NBOMe and it lasts only ~5-6 hours.
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Interesting. When I was 15.5 I took a couple tabs of what I thought were LSD. Given the extended duration, it was probably a research chemical, but it was on blotter(NBOMe? it was 1991) so it was a potent one. My friend took 5 tabs and started throwing up, which we never experienced with LSD. After nearly 24 hours of tripping I was left with years of panic attacks and HPPD. Walls breathing, textures enhanced, increas…
FWIW, if I can offer you anything, it's a hint as to what you probably took. The only thing I've ever taken + know of with even remotely a 24-hour duration is the "DOx" series, like "DOM", and "DOI", etc. I felt like I had been dragged through hell and back after the time I willingly + knowingly took a single dose of DOI. No idea who thinks 24 hours awake tripping is a good time. https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/DOx h…
I also had breathing issues around the tail end of the trip(I think you mentioned something similar). I would start to nod out in my attempt to sleep, but I'd come to after a few minutes, gasping for air.
It was tie-dyed blotter that my friend bought from a Dead show in Sacramento. I've never had anything like it since then.
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I love this. This was me in 2017 and following the white rabbit led to a most spectacular year. It really is a birth right, and people chosing ‘no’ are really missing out on a fundamental aspect of being alive. On another note, I always love psych threads on HN. High quality posts all around.
I feel a bit sad hearing this, I'm a pretty anxious person so I'll probably never experiment. While I love reading about people's experiences I often hear warnings that people like me should stay far far away.
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Also, there's this from the link: "The third possibility is the one that really intrigues me. A 2011 study found that a single dose of psilocybin could permanently increase the personality dimension of Openness To Experience. I’m emphasizing that because personality is otherwise pretty stable after adulthood; nothing should be able to do this." The fact is everything IS able to do this and it's up to the person to ch…
> The idea that personality is a stable feature after adulthood is simply a cultural phenomena No it's not. Twin studies show that personality is largely genetically determined, ie. twins that were separated at birth and raised separately largely have the same personalities, levels of happiness and life satisfaction, and even similar jobs and spouses . People tend to overestimate environmental influences.
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> But for a "one time" or "very small number of times". Is this based on personal experience, clinical studies, something else?
Mostly that all addicts w/ physical damages i know started using heavily to cope to some pain (heartbreak / mourning / loss of proffessional direction). Substances can help to realize stuff, but long term (1+year) regular using is never in my layman opinion
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> The idea that personality is a stable feature after adulthood is simply a cultural phenomena No it's not. Twin studies show that personality is largely genetically determined, ie. twins that were separated at birth and raised separately largely have the same personalities, levels of happiness and life satisfaction, and even similar jobs and spouses . People tend to overestimate environmental influences.
And how did the twins do when one was raised in a culture of beliefs about fixed identity/personality vs a culture of normalized self-reinvention?
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#158Earlier quoted context omitted.
I've written in-depth about that particular experience before on here, if you're interested here are the post links: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22991744 (See chain of replies too) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22993060 Short-term side effects were acute + severe panic attacks, triggered by flashbacks and feeling as though I was physically back in the same situation/it was starting to happen again. Ev…
Interesting. When I was 15.5 I took a couple tabs of what I thought were LSD. Given the extended duration, it was probably a research chemical, but it was on blotter(NBOMe? it was 1991) so it was a potent one. My friend took 5 tabs and started throwing up, which we never experienced with LSD. After nearly 24 hours of tripping I was left with years of panic attacks and HPPD. Walls breathing, textures enhanced, increas…
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And how did the twins do when one was raised in a culture of beliefs about fixed identity/personality vs a culture of normalized self-reinvention?
Well Western cultures predominantly assume tabula rasa, and these studies largely undermined that assumption, so I think that's a sufficient answer.
Gene expression is controlled via the epigenome, which can be affected by trauma.
Why can't it also be impacted by healing?
Also, since you didn't answer the question I asked, it's not a sufficient answer. I'm not talking about tabula rasa. I'm talking about static vs dynamic personality.
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I ate 8g of dried shrooms a few days ago. Once things really got going, I spent the time mostly in the dark at home focusing on whatever came to me. The intentions I set were for ego death of some kind. Much of it was spent grieving childhood trauma and the state of the world, most of which was done while singing, snorting, making other mouth noises, laughing, crying, or some combination of those. Yesterday, I realiz…
What is your experience with handling trips with CPTSD? I'm on the verge of exploring mushrooms and have pretty serious CPTSD symptoms and burdens. I'm doing therapy and a lot of self-therapy like somatic experiencing, dancing, IFS and just doing whatever my body wants to do. I hope that mushrooms would be a great addition to that 'do whatever I want' therapy by intensifying my child brain, but also I'm fearful that…
I have no idea what I took or how much.
All of my other trips have been after adopting a stance of radical acceptance and abandoning most of my preferences. Allowing myself to do what I want I think is really key to living fully and helps dramatically with tripping. If you're nervous about your first time, maybe find a trip sitter. There are also integration coaches out there who can help you prepare and followup with practices for integrating what you learn.
Ultimately, if you setup your environment to have all your needs accounted for (which may include putting "flight instructions" nearby and easily visible, taking a big dose and laying down with an eye mask on in a quiet environment can take you very far. You can always open your eyes and remind yourself you're safe, this is the mushrooms showing you what you need, and it shall pass. Don't Gandalf the Balrog, look at it and ask "What are you doing in my head and what do you have to teach me?"
I know people who have had very scary trips and came out having learned very little and changed very little. They also practice deep denials of reality, so I'd check myself for cognitive distortions and work them out or at least get into the habit of pausing and questioning an experience before flying solo.
Are you making music as part of your therapy? I ask because I've found making music allows me to see how I'm applying my brain to things. I practice playing what Sun Ra calls "pure jazz," music without preconceived notion or simply just being. There's no wrong note or wrong time to play it. However you want to be programming your brain to work, if you approach making music from that mindset, it's a safe environment to practice it.
I hope this helps you in your healing journey <3