Intelligent adults generally get vaccinated (unless they have a preexisting medical condition), so I can imagine that Googlers don't have problem with saying goodbye to the few antivaxx colleagues.
Google says employees flouting vaccination rules will eventually be fired
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#152We were promised this wouldn't happen by our governments last year right? It feels like the public are building their own prisons. Why are private companies stuck policing these absurd policies?
Unless you have medical exemption, it's just a jab in the arm?
>> ...it's just a jab in the arm
Until it isn't. Then what are you going to do? Probably nothing except suffer debilitation for life or death (~20,000 that have been reported to VAERS, so probably substantially more).
https://brandnewtube.com/watch/full-hearings-ron-johnson-039...
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#153Earlier quoted context omitted.
Science can be conclusive.
Sure, everyone was positive about a millenium ago that everything rotated around the Earth. It was not even up for debate, even among scientists. We all know how that turned out.
That's a selective reading of scientific history.
What about the rest of our modern scientific knowledge base? Gravity. Electromagnetism. Chemistry. Biology. There are entire swathes of disciplines that are well nailed down by results, and used daily as though they were fact. Because they work reliably.
So I'm going to call BS on the idea that science can't be conclusive because of the definition of the scientific method. It's arguing in bad faith to point at the 1% and ignore the 99%.
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#154Earlier quoted context omitted.
Google aren't forcing you to get an injection. They just won't employ you if you don't. That's not a violation of any rights. Google also won't employ you if you turn up to your interview with very bad breath. That's not a violation of a right to not clean your teeth. You're seriously confused about what a 'right' is.
> That's not a violation of any rights. There is no medical secret anymore? Being vaccinated or not should be, and remain, a private decision - with your doctor as a counterpart. Your employer has nothing to do in it.
> There is no medical secret anymore?
No I don't think that's a right is it?
I've always had to disclose vaccination status prior to the pandemic to my employer for travel reasons, for example.
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#155Earlier quoted context omitted.
> violate their rights Can you talk us through exactly which rights you think are being violated?
> Can you talk us through exactly which rights you think are being violated? I recall the left has been very vocal about "my body my right" when it came to some different kind of issue. Funny that the standards don't hold very much.
> "my body my right"
That debate is about the state forcing you to do something.
This debate is about Google opting to not employ you.
Not even remotely comparable.
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#156Earlier quoted context omitted.
Science can be conclusive.
Individual studies might be conclusive about a particular thing, but as a whole, science by definition isn't conclusive.
> Everyone got a vaccine and that is how it was because the decision was science-based and not up for discussion.
And that's exactly what GP was stating, which is why parent's quip against an out of context quote was unreasonably pedantic.
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#157Earlier quoted context omitted.
My Dad has a big divot out of his arm from the vaccine gun when he joined the army. Everyone got a vaccine and that is how it was because the decision was science-based and not up for discussion. Same for when I went to school. Kid not vaccinated? You aren’t going to school. Somehow that got eroded by madness.
> science-based and not up for discussion You realize this is a contradiction, right?
How is this being downvoted? The objective of science is to further knowledge with study and revise conclusions.
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1. Force people into draconian measures that won't stop infection and violate their rights. 2. Convince them that it's necessary to stop the pandemic without giving any arguments. 3. Have them defend your measures in public forums and feel very smart.
Three separate errors in point 1.
Point 2 is false.
Point 3 is too vague to make any sense.
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#159Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Companies are requiring the vaccine because they make employees less likely to miss work due to illness. Then if I don't want to get a vaccine, I'll sign an agreement that if I get sick and miss work, I don't get paid, and that's the end of it.
That’s not how infectious diseases work. You can be getting other people sick. Vaccines aren’t 100% effective so prolonged exposure in indoor spaces increases chances. Some people also are immuno compromised and can’t be vaccinated so you’d be putting them at risk too. Are you going to start paying for their sick time too and signing away that you’re personally liable for deaths?
> That’s not how infectious diseases work. You can be getting other people sick.
That's not how vaccines against COVID-19 work. They diminish the risk of severe illness and death, not transmission rates.
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#160This is just life, forever. Totally unprecedented. You will get a vaccination every 6 months for the rest of your life or be totally excluded from all civil rights. There will be no end. If the virus mutates to become harmless, the mandates will be given all the credit, and we will double down on this system. It's not temporary.
Let's see how far you get walking around completely naked. My guess is about 2 to 3 city blocks. Your civil rights have always been constrained to protect both the safety and sensibilities of those around you. It's the cost of an increasingly crowded planet full of people who also have rights .
You may need to update your priors. In Seattle, for example, going about your business naked in the city is not only legal, but determined to be a Constitutionally protected civil right by the courts decades ago. (And as is very evident, some people choose to exercise that right.)