If you looked at the code for the old XP Notepad, it was the Windows standard text entry control resized to full screen.
Outside of Ctrl+Backspace not working inside Notepad until recently (Windows 10 I believe), I see no problem with that.
Redesigned Notepad for Windows 11
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Re: Redesigned Notepad for Windows 11
#152Earlier quoted context omitted.
I like the feature additions but dislike that there's no visual division between the menu bar and the title bar you can click and drag to manipulate the window. Windows 10 and 11 often make me feel as if I have some disorder of the nervous system as I'm forever clicking just to the side of the interface element I want to use.
Also, Windows 10 removed the window borders so now you have to resize windows by grabbing their shadow. Years later I still regularly misclick.
One of the things I've been rolling around in my mind for a while now is what would a "what's old is new again" reversion to the non-flat/minimalist style look like if done now.
One of the things that strikes me with 4k displays is that there's a lot more pixels to throw around at elaborate designs, along with the skeuomorphic/physical representation of interactivity. I'm thinking back to the winxp era uxstyles skins that while they demonstrated Sturgeon's law, also had a wide range of art and ways to make it approachable for people.
In the case of windows, changing UI approach again would add another layer of strata with inconsistency, but right now MS's approach comes across as resume led design with a new version of windows to launch with their stamp on it
Re: Redesigned Notepad for Windows 11
#153I worked on Windows back in 2014, probably the most surprising thing joining there out of college was looking through the bug database. Every issue that gets complained about online -- and many more -- are in there, and have been for a long time, marked WONTFIX due to a potential compatibility break, lack of priority, or some other policy reason. I don't know if anyone even owned Notepad or any other older inbox apps…
> you could view reports on which obscure apps hooked into this or that internal code of cmd.exe or Notepad and would break Wait what, external software calls into notepad?
There's some fun projects that launch a notepad.exe and dump win32 messages into its wndProc to use it as a console logger
Re: Redesigned Notepad for Windows 11
#15410 minute QA because they don't seem to have done it: - It consistently starts slower than Notepad3 while having substantially fewer features to load (and also slower than the old Notepad of course) - THEY ANIMATED THE SCROLLING OMG PLEASE DONT DO THIS (especially when grabbing the scroll bar handle). Any amount of delay is too much in notepad - the animation runs at 60Hz even on a high refresh rate screen, so it loo…
Did they end up hiring back QA or have they stuck to their strategy of customers and analytics being QA?
Re: Redesigned Notepad for Windows 11
#155It seems to me that the new OS arms race is about tooling, not just base UX, and Windows is starting to play catch up. The modern Mac OS and Linux desktop environments don't just match up to Windows, but surpass it in many respects.
I wouldn't be surprised to see many "new" functionalities being introduced to Windows tools in the near future, with the catch that you will lose out on performance for a multitude of reasons: like trying too hard on aesthetics, trying to emulate the tooling of entirely different systems, or maintaining backwards compatibility.
Re: Redesigned Notepad for Windows 11
#156Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think so. How else are you supposed to edit a config file?
There is also write.exe or, just a suggestion, buy MS Office Word in a package deal for like ninety nine bucks. I can see why notepad might be deemed unimportant by Microsoft with both a commercial alternative to push and a more powerful editor also built in. (Assuming write.exe is still in W11, last I used was 7 I think.)
Those applications are absolutely not suitable for text editing because they have a tendency to mangle the text encoding and other CR/LF characters.
(I generally don't think it's too odd for an OS to ship with a text editor of some kind. I don't use notepad much but there are a few times that it's been a life saver.)
Re: Redesigned Notepad for Windows 11
#157What happened to UI customizablity since windows 7/8?
Windows XP use to have software to make shell look like anything. Only ever felt the need for skinning since windows 8 to go back to old UI which has clear borders and boundaries for everything including windows, buttons, menu bars, menus taskbar buttons...and lots of other things.
Is it harder to skin now? Why there aren't any software to give windows its classic look back?
Re: Redesigned Notepad for Windows 11
#158Re: Redesigned Notepad for Windows 11
#159Earlier quoted context omitted.
Let me blow your mind: you can use CTRL+SHIFT+V to paste text without formatting.
My mind isn't blown, this doesn't seem to work properly across all applications. I just tested it now pasting some text from a website into Slack and it retained hyperlinks (I don't mean plaintext https:// ones, but ones) and all that junk. When you cleanse it through notepad you have a guarantee that none of that is left.
I thought the Ctrl+Shit+V paste trick worked in Outlook, but I'll be damned if I could make it work today...
Re: Redesigned Notepad for Windows 11
#160Well that’s the one decent remaining bit of windows fucked up.
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