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Common Jobs in a Medieval City

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Re: Common Jobs in a Medieval City

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Thanks for the link! Hadn't heard of that, although I've seen similar reasoning in other contexts. (Basically, the most reasonable estimate, absent other data, is that you are at the mean -- so, for example, one could reasonably guess that half the people to ever be born have been born at present.)

So some people have 4 testicles? (assuming I'm average...)

I'm probably missing the point here but yes, in fact. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polyorchidism

A Rare Case of Polyorchidism: Four Testes: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4747319/

Re: Common Jobs in a Medieval City

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Wouldn't that raise prices, to use a nurse as a reception? In the US it would be something like: Receptionist: 30k / year Nurse: 80k / year. So you have: Doctor's office 1: 3x Nurse, 240k per year in salary Doctor's office 2: 2x Nurse, 1x Receptionist, 190k pear year. That 50k in extra cost has to come from somewhere. Lower paid doctors, higher costs, ???

I don't know how things have changed over the past 25 years, but I used to work as a defense contractor and would frequently have to visit the Navy Annex in Virginia which was also HQ US Marine Corps. It always struck me as weird that the guardhouse gate to enter was manned by a $12 hour off-brand security guard. I mentioned it to someone at one point, and I was told "Do you know how much it costs to train a Marine?…

knowing their spending habits, i tend to assume the DOD is paying that off-brand gate guard 10x whatever it costs to train a marine

Re: Common Jobs in a Medieval City

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It surprises me that all 10 jobs still exist, while there are several more recent occupations that no longer exist (albeit they were not that common): Milkmen, Elevator operator, Switchboard Operator, Ice Cutter, Bowling Pin Setter, Film projectionist, Lamplighter, Leech collector, Alchemist, Bematist, Redsmith, Daguerreotypist, Town crier

A building I worked in recently finally got rid of its elevator operators (along with a set of frighteningly rickety elevators) about 4 years ago. They must still exist in some places, maybe a few grand old hotels and social clubs.

Re: Common Jobs in a Medieval City

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My Dad was born before WW2 in a village in Eastern Europe, which was probably closer to a medieval village than to a 21st century one. He told me that a blacksmith would ask for 3 plum trees to do a certain job, presumably in order to make charcoal. I don't think there was anything special about plum trees, other than the local availability: people were (and still are) growing plum trees in order to make spirits. Giv…

Of extraordinary interest is the fact that the blacksmith made his own charcoal and presumably other consumables and tools. From whence his anvil? Would you mind sharing some more details, such as where was the village? This is exactly the type of history story that I enjoy telling my children. If you'd prefer to share privately, my Gmail username is the same as my HN username. Thank you!

> From whence his anvil?

As to that specifically, I'd guess (based on not much) that he inherited it.

Re: Common Jobs in a Medieval City

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It's interesting to think about what my life might have been like if I had been born 500 years earlier. I think carpenter or stonemason are what I would have been most interested in. But I really love books, so maybe I would have ended up in the clergy. Thank goodness I was born now.

I wonder what I would be born again as if rebirth was real. Maybe a prince. Or maybe a Nobel Prize winning physicist…

You would likely have been a peasant. The veil of ignorance doesn’t even make exceptions for HN readers.

Re: Common Jobs in a Medieval City

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Of extraordinary interest is the fact that the blacksmith made his own charcoal and presumably other consumables and tools. From whence his anvil? Would you mind sharing some more details, such as where was the village? This is exactly the type of history story that I enjoy telling my children. If you'd prefer to share privately, my Gmail username is the same as my HN username. Thank you!

I'm not sure if the blacksmith was making his own charcoal, or exchanging the wood for charcoal from someone who specialized in that. My Dad's village was about 250 km from this village [1] where people make charcoal even these days (one of the last remaining charcoal burning sites in the world). It's possible back in the day there were much more numerous such sites, so one would not have to travel far. But even if t…

> or exchanging the wood for charcoal from someone who specialized in that

This is actually an interesting example of a market state that's sort of intermediate between barter and full monetization. Not everyone is going to want wood, making it a bad currency. Except that The Charcoal Guy always does want wood, so transactions that somehow involve him suddenly can use wood as currency.

Re: Common Jobs in a Medieval City

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They must have been quite prolific then. There's a reason Smith is the most common surname in the English speaking world.

TBF there are many types of smiths, so maybe that's why: blacksmith, goldsmith, tinsmith, coppersmith, etc.

Probably not; the odds are very high that the name "Smith" (or any analogue like "Kuznets") originally refers to a blacksmith. Most metalwork is ironwork.

Re: Common Jobs in a Medieval City

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I think the parent quote may be in reference to David Graeber's commentary on "bullshit jobs".

I figured as much. But I don't agree with the premise of the book. Sure, we all "know" the jobs are bullshit, and yet they aren't. Let's go over the wikipedia summary at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bullshit_Jobs >flunkies, who serve to make their superiors feel important, e.g., receptionists, administrative assistants, door attendants, makers of websites whose sites neglect ease of use and speed for looks; They ser…

I guess a job can’t be bullshit to you as long as one isn’t committing outright fraud.

Re: Common Jobs in a Medieval City

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And where generally closer to our modern day MDs then real mediaval MDs. As those where theologists coming from christian universities where they received basically zero true medical training.

Secular doctors were also terrible: before the late-19th century, seeing a doctor was more likely to shorten your lifespan than lengthen it. Unless you needed surgery, which meant that you were in serious trouble anyway, so even with the extreme likelihood of infection your odds were a bit better than just leaving it alone. As far as I can tell, before like 1880 they prescribed mercury for everything. Even though the…

The BBC did a short series called "Victorian Pharmacy" where they attempted to use Victorian-era cures on modern people. Except they couldn't even try most of them because they were too dangerous - opium, arsenic, mercury, cocaine, etc. And the things they could try (excepting Lea & Perrins sauce) were basically torture devices like the Malvern Water Cure[2].

[1]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXnVTMzSy3s

[2]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malvern_water

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